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San Francisco didn't make same-sex marriage illegal. California did.
Half of San Francisco is gay. It's been heavily gay since WWII ended. It's where the 60s and Flower Children were born. It's where AIDS began awareness and been in the front wars for fighting it for 4 decades.
I'm not saying Montreal isn't liberal. But, you really know nothing about San Francisco at all. You also can't compare Washington DC's federal politics or Sacramento's state politics, to somehow claim that San Francisco is NOT liberal because of DC or Sacramento.
You'll have to visit SF, it seems very clear from your post, that you haven't been.
Sure I've been to San Fransisco. I haven't intended to "somehow claim San Fransisco it is NOT liberal", but only that it is not as liberal as Montreal.
The fact is, gay marriage was legal in Montreal long before San Fransisco. Whether this is relevant is up to the reader to decide. I truly apologize if I've offended you in anyway.
So you must consider giving black Americans equal rights to whites a conservative and draconian measure. Just like in Canada, the new laws really ruined the "good old days" when the French Canadians were subordinate to the English.
Things like white store owners being forced by the government to serve black customers, that's a conservative measure. And the federal government forcing the integration of schools, even sending in the police and national guard to enforce the law - the Liberals hated that conservative measure, right?. Majority white schools are forced to observe black history month in February, another conservative measure. Affirmative Action, don't forget about that, that's another measure that is wildly popular with conservatives and despised by Liberals, right?
What you are saying is like the above but in the Canadian context. It makes no sense. Conservatives in Canada are against Quebec's actions, while Liberals support it. Conservative Americans would most certainly, without a doubt, oppose Quebec's actions, while Liberals would support it. You've got conservatism and liberalism all backwards.
You're comparing the French to slaves? First of all French isn't a race, second of all they weren't owned by anyone, and they weren't having their civil rights encumbered by anyone. And no I don't actually think American liberals would support language laws and language police like Quebec has enacted. We tend towards liberalizing policies and being inclusive rather than making them draconian and closed, which apparently is how Canadian liberals think. It's also the whole reason why the liberals in the US are so opposed to all the English official language legislation, because it closes the door to other languages not opens up the society to multiculturalism.
Quebec had an issue with the English language but instead of making it so English and French, and Swahili, and Hindu, Hebrew, Mandarin, and Russian or whatever other language you want could co-exist, they said only French is legal, and everything else is illegal and will get you in trouble with the language police, that's not liberal at all.
Sure I've been to San Fransisco. I haven't intended to "somehow claim San Fransisco it is NOT liberal", but only that it is not as liberal as Montreal.
The fact is, gay marriage was legal in Montreal long before San Fransisco. Whether this is relevant is up to the reader to decide. I truly apologize if I've offended you in anyway.
Just because it was legal first doesn't make it more liberal, most of americans are for gay rights but most of the states have not legalized it.
You're comparing the French to slaves? First of all French isn't a race, second of all they weren't owned by anyone, and they weren't having their civil rights encumbered by anyone. And no I don't actually think American liberals would support language laws and language police like Quebec has enacted. We tend towards liberalizing policies and being inclusive rather than making them draconian and closed, which apparently is how Canadian liberals think. It's also the whole reason why the liberals in the US are so opposed to all the English official language legislation, because it closes the door to other languages not opens up the society to multiculturalism.
Quebec had an issue with the English language but instead of making it so English and French, and Swahili, and Hindu, Hebrew, Mandarin, and Russian or whatever other language you want could co-exist, they said only French is legal, and everything else is illegal and will get you in trouble with the language police, that's not liberal at all.
You are very confused. First of all there is no ''language police''. You're just buying into the rhetoric of a certain fringe of the anglo community by using that term.
As you are by saying English and other languages are ''illegal''. They aren't illegal at all, and what the law says n most cases is simply that you can't ignore French and pretend it doesn't exist. You can serve your customers in English or whatever, have signs in those languages. But you can't refuse service in French.
The main effect of the language laws and policies has been that, contrary to what has been the case in the past, things have become more complicated for those in Quebec who would try and impose the use of English on the majority.
You are very confused. First of all there is no ''language police''. You're just buying into the rhetoric of a certain fringe of the anglo community by using that term.
As you are by saying English and other languages are ''illegal''. They aren't illegal at all, and what the law says n most cases is simply that you can't ignore French and pretend it doesn't exist. You can serve your customers in English or whatever, have signs in those languages. But you can't refuse service in French.
The main effect of the language laws and policies has been that, contrary to what has been the case in the past, things have become more complicated for those in Quebec who would try and impose the use of English on the majority.
I can't remember their name right now, but there's a whole police force that goes out and patrols places to make sure that there are no English signs. In college I had this elective like North American politics, and for my project I got assigned Quebec, so I've done my research. They made English illegal, it went all the way up to Canada's Supreme Court and they ruled that it wasn't unconstitutional, so now you have places even in Montreal where you won't find any English, or anything in any other language but French because the language police patrols come through. So if you'are asking me which is a more liberal city the one that has laws that make it illegal to use languages other than French, or one that doesn't care and embraces diversity of all facets, of course you've gotta go with SF.
Our American friends might want to check out my location if they think they know Quebec better than me.
Yes, I saw your location, but you never provided any sources, while when I did my project on Quebec, I had to find sources from newspapers, magazines, and other media. So it boils down to you saying that journalists were wrong, but you aren't providing any evidence to the contrary, so what I'm supposed to just take your word on it?
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