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There are 8.6 million people living in the South East, which is the countries surrounding the South and West of London, in terms of the East of England which covers areas such as Essex and Herts up to Beds it has a population of 5.8 million giving a population of around 14.4 million, whilst London itself has a population of 8.3 million. Meaning that small corner of England has a population in excess of 20 million.
We're talking contiguous built-up area. NYC still dwarfs London.
We're talking contiguous built-up area. NYC still dwarfs London.
Are you trying to say that the New York Metro Area which occupies 13,318 square miles is all massively built up because it just isn't.
I don't know how to put this but 13,318 square miles is twice this size of all of Yorkshire and Humberside in England combined. That's North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire and Humberside times two. It's a ridiculous metro area, and in terms of train links in to London and other public transport you will find the South East and East regions are far better served than most of the vast NYC metro.
Well even within that large region, most live in the built-up area. I've not seen any stats that puts greater London at 21-22 million. I mean England has 53 million people, that's already 40% of England.
Well even within that large region, most live in the built-up area. I've not seen any stats that puts greater London at 21-22 million. I mean England has 53 million people, that's already 40% of England.
A very high percentage of the population of England live in London, the South East and the East regions.
A lot of Northern England is vast open very beautiful spaces from the Peak District up to the Pennine Way, Yorkshire Dales, North Yorkshire Moors, Yorkshire Wolds, Lake Districts up to rural Northumberland and the Cheviots. The same applies to a lot of the South West and Wales, Scotland, NI.
A very high percentage of the population of England live in London, the South East and the East regions.
A lot of Northern England is vast open very beautiful spaces from the Peak District up to the Pennine Way, Yorkshire Dales, North Yorkshire Moors, Yorkshire Wolds, Lake Districts up to rural Northumberland and the Cheviots.
Yeah but London does not equal the Southeast...the continuous built-up area and commuter belt of Greater London is 14-15 million at most. In NYC, it's 22 million. Just accept the fact the NYC metro is much larger. Manhattan also feels much bigger, busier, but that's also because of it's grid pattern and greater feeling of connectedness and continuity.
Northern England certainly is very populated in parts, the Merseyside-Manchester-Leeds-Yorkshire conurbation and the Midlands, and then the Teeside/Northeastern conurbations. Birmingham is also considered the north. I've heard it said half of England lives in the cultural-linguistic 'north' of the country.
O.k. So we're all agreed then that New York is the preferable city?
The poll, at least so far, would seem to agree with you. Unless they chime in though, it'll be difficult to evaluate whether or not they are basing their vote on actual experience of both cities, preconceptions or wishful thinking.
Yeah but London does not equal the Southeast...the continuous built-up area and commuter belt of Greater London is 14-15 million at most. In NYC, it's 22 million. Just accept the fact the NYC metro is much larger. Manhattan also feels much bigger, busier, but that's also because of it's grid pattern and greater feeling of connectedness and continuity.
Northern England certainly is very populated in parts, the Merseyside-Manchester-Leeds-Yorkshire conurbation and the Midlands, and then the Teeside/Northeastern conurbations. Birmingham is also considered the north. I've heard it said half of England lives in the cultural-linguistic 'north' of the country.
There has been a discussion with regard to a Greater South East Super Region by individuals such as Sir Peter Hall and the London School of Economics which cites the region as having over 35% of the nations population and accounting for over 21 million individuals.
It should be noted that even cities such as Cambridge are less than an hour away by coach (greyhound) and that the region is very well connected via the train network and as a number of important hubs.
There has been a discussion with regard to a Greater South East Super Region by individuals such as Sir Peter Hall and the London School of Economics which cites the region as having over 35% of the nations population and accounting for over 21 million individuals.
It should be noted that even cities such as Cambridge are less than an hour away by coach (greyhound) and that the region is very well connected via the train network and as a number of important hubs.
Yeah that area is in no way equivalent to Greater London. How many folks in Peterborough or Southampton commute to London?
I've driven a lot in Southern England, still a lot of farmland/greenery in between.
Yeah that area is in no way equivalent to Greater London. How many folks in Peterborough or Southampton commute to London?
I've driven a lot in Southern England, still a lot of farmland/greenery in between.
So what, there's plenty of countryside in Connecticut, a state with a population of 3.5 million, and last time I was in New Jersey there was also plenty of countryside in a state of 8.7 million and the same is true of Long Island, a lot of which is a giant beach community as you get further out.
As for South East England it has green belt, but this doesn't mean that areas aren't very well connected to London, you go to most places in the South East and you can be in to the centre of London within half an hour, even further out 45 minutes, even places as far as Brighton are only 50 minutes away.
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