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Old 01-16-2015, 06:08 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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in Indonesia sekitar 14 % of the population of non-Muslims that means 50 -60 million people of other faiths, I live on the border of Jakarta - Tangerang, in my place many other religious people living around my neighborhood, even one family has 4 - 5 religion. Unique of it all we often share about differences we religious each. I even went to a place of worship they see how they pray to the creator.
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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There will be a lot of racial and/or religious-related violence if Muslims were to be living in Latin America. Both sides are hot-blooded and would clash immensely. Not to mention, Latin American countries are developing (or not developed enough), so that's why people don't immigrate there.

Incidentally, Argentina might be the first country in Latin America to be as developed as, say, Australia or NZ in the near future.



Latin America has always received immigrants. There were pools of Europeans from the world wars, in particular from: Italy, Germany, Poland, Hungary, Russia, and many other countries. Spaniards have continuously migrated to LA, even to this day. Lots of Asians too- Alberto Fujimori? Japanese populations in Peru and Brazil? Chinese communities in Costa Rica and Mexico? Korean immigrants are all over, from Mexico to Argentina.

People from certain Middle Eastern countries have migrated to LA as well, in particular people from Lebanon, Syria, and Turkey. There are Muslim communities in LA, but they are small. It is no coincidence that Shakira, Salma Hayek, Abdala Bucaram (President of Ecuador), Carlos Menem (President of Argentina) and billionaire Carlos Slim are of Middle Eastern heritage. In fact, Carlos Menem's parents were Muslim.

There really isn't a clash of religions in LA. There is alot of syncretism and this has allowed for religious tolerance. The Jewish communities there have thrived and are left alone, for the most part. Brazil, Cuba and other countries with a strong African presence have large groups of people who practice religions with African roots (Candomble, Santeria, etc...) Other countries like Mexico and Peru have alot of Native American religious beliefs that are tolerated and practiced by Catholics.

Argentina is getting worst and worst, economically speaking, it is currently one of the worst economies in LA.
It has been falling apart for more than 15 years.

Where are you getting your information from?

Usually larger groups of people migrate to new areas when there are economic connections and ties. There haven't been many economic connections between many majority Muslim countries and LA countries yet.

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Old 01-16-2015, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Latin America has always received immigrants. There were pools of Europeans from the world wars, in particular from: Italy, Germany, Poland, Hungary, Russia, and many other countries. Spaniards have continuously migrated to LA, even to this day. Lots of Asians too- Alberto Fujimori? Japanese populations in Peru and Brazil? Chinese communities in Costa Rica and Mexico? Korean immigrants are all over, from Mexico to Argentina.

People from certain Middle Eastern countries have migrated to LA as well, in particular people from Lebanon, Syria, and Turkey. There are Muslim communities in LA, but they are small. It is no coincidence that Shakira, Salma Hayek, Abdala Bucaram (President of Ecuador), Carlos Menem (President of Argentina) and billionaire Carlos Slim are of Middle Eastern heritage. In fact, Carlos Menem's parents were Muslim.

There really isn't a clash of religions in LA. There is alot of syncretism and this has allowed for religious tolerance. The Jewish communities there have thrived and are left alone, for the most part. Brazil, Cuba and other countries with a strong African presence have large groups of people who practice religions with African roots (Candomble, Santeria, etc...) Other countries like Mexico and Peru have alot of Native American religious beliefs that are tolerated and practiced by Catholics.

Argentina is getting worst and worst, economically speaking, it is currently one of the worst economies in LA.
It has been falling apart for more than 15 years.

Where are you getting your information from?

Usually larger groups of people migrate to new areas when there are economic connections and ties. There haven't been many economic connections between many majority Muslim countries and LA countries yet.
The OP was actually asking about South America, not Latin America. They are not interchangeable definitions and LA and Cuba are most certainly not part of South America.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:05 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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South America is in LA
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The OP was actually asking about South America, not Latin America. They are not interchangeable definitions and LA and Cuba are most certainly not part of South America.
Actually, the OP did ask about LA and the Caribbean.


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Why does Latin/South America (Including the Caribbean) and East Asia (Japan, China, Korea, etc.) have very low Islamic population, while Europe and also somewhat North America have higher?...
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Actually, the OP did ask about LA and the Caribbean.
Well my bad. The title is a bit misleading.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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The OP was actually asking about South America, not Latin America. They are not interchangeable definitions and LA and Cuba are most certainly not part of South America.
Are you really going to argue semantics and ignore the important points that were brought up?

The Latin American hemisphere comprises Mexico, Central America, South America and countries in the Caribbean. South America is a part of Latin America, and there is such a thing as a Latin American identity. Some people don't relate to it, I do.

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Old 01-17-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Why does Latin/South America (Including the Caribbean) and East Asia (Japan, China, Korea, etc.) have very low Islamic population, while Europe and also somewhat North America have higher? Why don't Muslims move to South America and East Asia as well, rather than sticking to mostly in Europe, Australia/New Zealand and North America?
Why would Muslims move to East Asia and Southern America? Because that's the way you want it? They move to Europe because that's the place where they're most likely to live a decent life (Also due to our welfare state), it's easier to immigrate, to integrate and most likely because there are already big communities in European countries. Also, in North America and New Zealand are few and far in between, they can actually be lumped with East Asia and South America.

Edit: I also forgot to say that Europe is closer to the Middle East and Northern Africa which are the main sources of "Muslim" immigration.
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Old 01-17-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Are you really going to argue semantics and ignore the important points that were brought up?

The Latin American hemisphere comprises Mexico, Central America, South America and countries in the Caribbean. South America is a part of Latin America, and there is such a thing as a Latin American identity. Some people don't relate to it, I do.
You missed my point. South America is NOT interchangeable with Latin America. It overlaps to a large extent, but there are SEVERAL countries in South America that are not part of Latin America. That includes French Guiana, Guyana, and Suriname. That's more than just semantics. We're talking about entire countries. If you are talking about the Caribbean, places like Haiti, Barbados, the Virgin Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, the Bahamas, etc. are similarly not Latin American.
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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There will be a lot of racial and/or religious-related violence if Muslims were to be living in Latin America. Both sides are hot-blooded and would clash immensely. Not to mention, Latin American countries are developing (or not developed enough), so that's why people don't immigrate there.

Incidentally, Argentina might be the first country in Latin America to be as developed as, say, Australia or NZ in the near future.
No way. Chile and Uruguay are the best candidates. These countries have almost nothing remembering a third world country and maybe until 2020 they will be considered developed countries. Chile is also member of OECD. Argentina, on the other hand, is going backwards, with a leftist government with ties to 'bolivarianism', like Brazil.

About muslims in South America, there are small muslims communities but they do exist. The city of Foz do Iguaçu, in the triple border of Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay, has a large and strong muslim community. And Carlos Menem, former president of Argentina, is a muslim who later converted to the catholicism, due to impositions of the argentinian law.
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