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View Poll Results: New Zealand vs Italy (new world vs old world)
New Zealand 15 45.45%
Italy 18 54.55%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-13-2015, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Both lies at the same latitude; both have a curious similar shape

But they are respectively at eachothers antipodes

Look!! Same shape..same inclination, same latitude.. As the north island is to New Zealand what Sicily is to Italy!!

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Old 02-13-2015, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Other curious coincidences!!:

Southern Alps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Cities latitude correspondence

Dunedin - Trento
Christchurch - Florence
Wellington - Latina
Napier-Hastings - Cagliari
Hamilton - Tauranga - Catania
Auckland - Siracuse

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Old 02-13-2015, 07:29 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Cities latitude correspondence

Dunedin - Trento
Christchurch - Florence
Wellington - Latina
Napier-Hastings - Cagliari
Hamilton - Tauranga - Catania
Auckland - Siracuse
New Zealand also has at least some areas that produce wine and olives.

If you are thinking about leaving Italy, like many young people did over two or three generations about 100-135 years ago and many young people have done over these past two or three generations, and are looking for a place at least remotely similar to Italy, as you observe, then go for it!

Your youth is too fleeting to waste in a sclerotic country like Italy in slow decline.

Decline which over the past four years or so has accelerated even beyond my most pessimistic expectations formed in the late 1990s, and I have watched it from afar with varying degrees of horror.


However - and I am not an expert on either Australia or New Zealand - I believe that Australia, which also has some areas with Mediterranean-like climate, is a bit more dynamic and offers more opportunities for young people. But, yes, it is uncanny that New Zealand has these "Alps" going in sort of the opposite direction.

Good Luck!
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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No.. I don't want to move, as I feel my traditions.. And also life as an immigrant is hard.
Of course if I have to starv..yes.. But then again I would return to Italy..after I got some money-work there.

For now I don't need to move.

As it s my class-generation that has to lead my country and to form a solid cultural base for immigrants here.

Expecially against islamism fanatics
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Yes, this alps are a curious coincidence
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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No.. I don't want to move, as I feel my traditions.. And also life as an immigrant is hard.
Of course if I have to starv..yes.. But then again I would return to Italy..after I got some money-work there.

For now I don't need to move.

As it s my class-generation that has to lead my country and to form a solid cultural base for immigrants here.

Expecially against islamism fanatics
Well, I don't think Italy will decline to the point of starvation. After all, Barilla, De Cecco, Bertolli et alia still feed me. I think more in terms of dynamic entrepreneurial opportunities for average young people.

But I understand how you feel. And I even admire you for taking up the challenge of Italy's uncertain future.

Again, Good Luck!
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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.. Also my primar destination if immigration is still europe..eventually. Northern Italy first.. Than southern France as second.

I m not interested in the new world or in living europe
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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NZ for me - Europe is just too far away.

Italy seems like a great country though. If I was going to live in Europe, it would be on the short list.

My own fair town would be just south of Rome, and does have vineyards and olive orchards, although apples are the big crop. There was an influx of Italian immigrants here in the late 1800's, and the names and faces can still be seen around town.
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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^very interesting what kind of wine do you grow?

South of domes begin wines of campania.. Fiano di avellino, Greco di tufo, aglianico (taurasi)
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