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Bottom line: I am living in this harsh Islamic vibe, hoping to take off here real soon. I also applied for US student visa but flunked it 2 times in a row, so I am giving up re-applying it.
So many efforts,energies and precious time were put to improve my language, getting my visa thing done,...., but were all down the drain and yet, I am trapped in this Islamic vibe for 29 grey years. Maybe finding a new country and staring a new language all over again could cure, I don't know. Heaven help me.
If the USA doesn't want you, why you don't try another country?
I'm sure there are countries that would accept you, if you don't want to live in Iran anymore.
I know Iranians who live here in Fortaleza, Brazil.
For those who are not familiar with Iranian culture, (read Islamic culture), I should be pointing out a few facts than can help you get a better handle of our lives:
1. When I was in elementary school, we were forced to chant "death to america" on our way to classes from courtyard cues.
(You can absolutely guess what this hate chants does influence on your thoughts in a long run).
2. When I was a student (through out all the grades), females were not allowed in our classes, making our class a very masculine class in which boys had to only hang out with guys.
(This Islamic rule also held us back to enjoy dating a girl for our first 18 years, just before getting into university where we got to see girls for the first time)
3. When I was a university student back in 2005, I had a girlfriend who confided in me and expressly said: "We'd better lay low in our relationship, since I get beat up by my brothers and dad if they know I am dating a boy!"
(So I and my girlfriend would only get in touch surreptitiously. Going around in streets far from where we thought there would be presence of namely "Islamic Police" And her brothers&dad)
I'll post more of my experiences here only to let you know what a desparate, suicidal guy I have become in this point at the moment.
I'll post more of my experiences here only to let you know what a desparate, suicidal guy I have become in this point at the moment.
Iranianguy, try to think positively, it could be much worse: you could have been born in Saudi Arabia...
That would be much worse...
But the world is big, there is no reason for you to live in Iran if you don't like it. There are plenty of countries in the world where the majority of the population are not Muslims, if you don't like to be among Muslims...
For those who are not familiar with Iranian culture, (read Islamic culture), I should be pointing out a few facts than can help you get a better handle of our lives:
1. When I was in elementary school, we were forced to chant "death to america" on our way to classes from courtyard cues.
(You can absolutely guess what this hate chants does influence on your thoughts in a long run).
2. When I was a student (through out all the grades), females were not allowed in our classes, making our class a very masculine class in which boys had to only hang out with guys.
(This Islamic rule also held us back to enjoy dating a girl for our first 18 years, just before getting into university where we got to see girls for the first time)
3. When I was a university student back in 2005, I had a girlfriend who confided in me and expressly said: "We'd better lay low in our relationship, since I get beat up by my brothers and dad if they know I am dating a boy!"
(So I and my girlfriend would only get in touch surreptitiously. Going around in streets far from where we thought there would be presence of namely "Islamic Police" And her brothers&dad)
I'll post more of my experiences here only to let you know what a desparate, suicidal guy I have become in this point at the moment.
You can PM me if you ever feel like you want to talk to someone about that.
I was at first a bit hesitant as to how to choose an appropriate title for this topic that can represent something countering Islam ideology, and came up with a word "Christian countries" as a paragon. Although this topic mainly focuses about Influence of Islamic culture and its outcomes, compared to other nations. (Be it christian or non-christian).
The so-called west can appear to be a strange beast, even we do not always know what to call ourselves, almost all attempts are partial or slanted or simply downright awkward: e.g. Rule-of-Law Materialism is not as jingoistic or politically useful as some flamboyant ideological -ism or other typical smokescreen.
Personally my preferred indicator for comparing political-economic units is not their ideologies, religious or otherwise (plenty of those around too), rather the quality of their resource management and administration, to begin with. Now, we can discuss to what extent successful resource management and administration are associated with personal freedom of choice in society.
As for your personal situation, assuming you are sincere, I would suggest, in addition to language, that you maximize and emphasize whatever other hard skills you may have particularly in the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics, then try also a country like Canada or Australia, maybe Brazil too (perhaps some regions of that country are better than others, but Brazil overall appears to be in a terrible recession right now).
Anecdotally, I rent an apartment to an Iranian guy, he owns his own business, a salesman with the gift of gab, family man, married to a Hispanic-American, responsible, seems to be more materialistic than spiritual, but talks with affection about family and food back in Iran - or whatever home country: in other words, a typical American.
Anyway, Good Luck!
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True, but if they were in the different place (like back home), you woulda seen a dramatic change in there attitudes. It's all about hypocrisy.
I grant you, I wouldn't idealize US, taken into account diversity in the US culture. But we're taking comparitavely not absolutely. So makes sense to say US is better than Iran in regards of freedom, accepting new comers,.....
Absolutely! Secular world is safer than religious world. The irony is, religions are Evils. There is no such thing as Evil. And see how secular countries are way happier than religious ones.
I know about racism in developed countries and racial slur going on, but yet, it's better than not having freedom of speech and what you call libel.
Thank you for the tip. But I'm afraid I can't afford time to learn a new language. I'll 34 if I start today learning Spanish, French,... to be fluent.
I think the language is not a problem specially when you know English Latin or Germans languages you don’t start from the zero… these languages all have common origin.
Six months living in a country you will communicate without problems.
I think the language is not a problem specially when you know English Latin or Germans languages you don’t start from the zero… these languages all have common origin.
Six months living in a country you will communicate without problems.
English is thought as the second language in Iran schools and Arabic as the third. (But it used to be German for third language perior to emenous Islamic revolution in 1979)
6 months of tutor would not be enough for a guy turning to his 30's. But anyway, it's worth a try.
Iranianguy, since you can speak English, why don't you try living in India for a time?
It would feel less oppressive to you, and could be a temporary home. You could even fall in love for India and don't want to go anywhere else. Or you could choose another country later.
Many people in India speak English, and the language is very used in business in the country.
Iranianguy, since you can speak English, why don't you try living in India for a time?
It would be feel less oppressive to you, and could be a temporary home. You could even fall in love for India and don't want to go anywhere else. Or you could choose another country later.
Many people in India speak English.
That's not true I'm afraid. India has an official indian language and various local languages, yet not even known or understandable for Iranian people.
FYI, Pakistani and Indian language is so different than persian language, that as an Iranian guy, I can't make out what they say. Added to that, there is a violation of human rights going on in india if you're done a little search on the internet.
On the trails of what were discussed earlier this topic, I'll add more interesting facts about how Islam has held us Iranian people back:
1. Our internet download rate is restricted, meaning that the fastest Internet (offered to personal users at home) doesn't exceed the limit of 150Kbps. (Because Islamic thought doesn't let you enjoy a thing, as long as it's addictive!)
Speaking of Internet, be informed that so many websites are rediculously filtered/banned for having either pornographic materials or political things or for some other silly issues.
Wouldn't you be amazed that even Youtube, Twitter and facebook got filtered/banned back in 2009 when Iranian election got into a full scale street protests? (The Iranian regime did this to dishearten those who were twitting or posting some fresh news that Ayatollah was worried about)
Even blogspot, and few other websites (including city-data!!!) is filtered. And that's why so many Iranian people only rely on VPN /proxies to connect to internet. (I have VPN pointing to Germany/France/UK as I am writting this)
2. Now the sanctions are all removed, Ayatollah has issued a warrant that No foreign company is allowed to work in Iran unless it finds an Iranian senior partner!!!!
Because according to holy quran! "God has blocked the ways infidels take econimic control over muslims". So muslims shouldn't let the foreigners do some economic affairs which will then lead to economic control over muslims!!!!
(Here again, people in Iran have been victims of Islamic thoughts of Islam)
The Irony is, however, that Iranian people love an ideology (Islam) which is in reality their enemy number one! The enemy of their household income, The enemy of their society vibe, The enemy of their fun, The enemy of their freedom,......
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