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Old 07-01-2017, 06:33 AM
 
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There is a mish mash of vocabulario, but even then 80% of words that even an educado and articulado English speaker use in a day are of origen germánico. All that pie chart shows is that English hoards words of foreign origen away in its diccionario just to take a few out on a rainy day to sound pomposo(like I do quite often).

Anyway, that a lenguaje is the suma of its vocabulario is falso.

I put in bold the equivalente words in Spanish.
Now I wrote it using Spanish words lol
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:20 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Spanish and Portuguese. They're supposed to be so closely related as to be mutually intelligible but they don't sound similar to me at all.
They aren't mutually intelligible. Portuguese speakers can understand more or less Spanish depending on the variety. The varieties spoken in Colombia and Mexico are the easiest to be understood, while Rioplatense is the hardest. Spanish from Madrid is in between.

On the other way, I notice that native spanish speakers in general don't understand Portuguese at all in the spoken form, unless they studied the language before.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:26 AM
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Location: Ontario
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Dutch and Deutsch
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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French and Italian.
Bot share more than 80% of cognates, but they are completely uninteligible. Moreover, even people who speak neither will easily tell each one apart.
I would say the same goes for French and Spanish.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:49 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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There is a mish mash of vocabulaire, but even then 80% of words that even an éduqué and articulé English speaker use in a day are of Germanique origine. All that pie chart shows is that English hoards words of forain origine away in its dictionnaire juste to take a few out on a rainy day to sound pompeux (like I do quite often).

Anyway, that a langage is the somme of its vocabulaire is faux.

I put in bold the équivalent words in French.
This doesn't prove that vocabulary indicates relationship, it only indicates proximity. So is Spanish closer to Arabic than French?
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: France, Bordeaux
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This doesn't prouve that vocabulaire indique relation, it only indique proximité. So is Spanish closer to Arabe than French?
I do not understand your questions, I just wanted to highlight that English is not 80% germanic as indicated by ABQConvict

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Old 07-01-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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in regards to dutch, even their spelling looks really foreign!! consider the word afsluitdijk
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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There is a mish mash of vocabulary, but even then 80% of words that even an educated and articulate English speaker uses in a day are of Germanic origin. All that pie chart shows is that English hoards words of foreign origin away in its dictionaries just to take a few out on a rainy day to sound pompous (like I do quite often).

Anyway, that a language is the sum of its vocabulary is false.
Doesn't look like 80% on that chart to me, where did you get 80% from?
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: France, Bordeaux
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in regards to dutch, even their spelling looks really foreign!! consider the word afsluitdijk
Au regard to dutch, even their spellôn (old french) looks réellement foraine!! considérant the word afsluitdijk

It's funny to find the similarités. English has a lot of Latin and French origine words.

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Old 07-01-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY.
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Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Polish, Bulgarian, Slovak, Serbian, Montenegro, etc. all sound similar to non speakers, but they are different. Those who use Cyrillic(Greek) letters instead of Latin can read each language, and can figure out what is being said, but it's like Spanish and Italian, came from Latin but developed different dialects.
Polish use Latin as they are Catholic, but Polish, Ukrainian and Belorussian are closer to each other than to Russian.
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