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Old 07-02-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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You guys don’t get it... the good ol’ days are gone...
Tiny countries need to join together to form a larger country for the purpose of achieving common prosperity
The Anglosphere can achieve much much more if they merge.

To put into perspective, GDP (PPP) in 2019 for each of these 6 countries
United States - US$21,345 billion
United Kingdom - US$3,128 billion
Canada - US$1,897 billion
Australia - US$1,369 billion
Ireland - US$409 billion
New Zealand - US$206 billion
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Old 07-02-2019, 07:02 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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You guys don’t get it... the good ol’ days are gone...
Tiny countries need to join together to form a larger country for the purpose of achieving common prosperity
The Anglosphere can achieve much much more if they merge.

To put into perspective, GDP (PPP) in 2019 for each of these 6 countries
United States - US$21,345 billion
United Kingdom - US$3,128 billion
Canada - US$1,897 billion
Australia - US$1,369 billion
Ireland - US$409 billion
New Zealand - US$206 billion


We intend to have closer relations following Brexit, and a CANZUK economic block would be a good start.

CANZUK International – Promoting Closer Ties


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Old 07-02-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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You guys don’t get it... the good ol’ days are gone...
Tiny countries need to join together to form a larger country for the purpose of achieving common prosperity
The Anglosphere can achieve much much more if they merge.

To put into perspective, GDP (PPP) in 2019 for each of these 6 countries
United States - US$21,345 billion
United Kingdom - US$3,128 billion
Canada - US$1,897 billion
Australia - US$1,369 billion
Ireland - US$409 billion
New Zealand - US$206 billion
Yeah, all of these countries speak mostly English and have the same western culture. Therefore, they should just give it up and become part of the United States.

Why don't they? Beats me.
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Old 07-02-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Yeah, all of these countries speak mostly English and have the same western culture. Therefore, they should just give it up and become part of the United States.

Why don't they? Beats me.
It could be considered if the US is prepared to take on our health care system, our gun laws and give up your tipping system!

Seriously, there are many trade agreements in place and the GDPs of the countries are in line with their sizes.
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Old 07-02-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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You guys don’t get it... the good ol’ days are gone...
Tiny countries need to join together to form a larger country for the purpose of achieving common prosperity
The Anglosphere can achieve much much more if they merge.

To put into perspective, GDP (PPP) in 2019 for each of these 6 countries
United States - US$21,345 billion
United Kingdom - US$3,128 billion
Canada - US$1,897 billion
Australia - US$1,369 billion
Ireland - US$409 billion
New Zealand - US$206 billion
As a Canadian, I'm actually all for it, though I recognize that I'd be in the minority here. I would love to see the Anglosphere merge into a singular entity, but the reality on the ground is quite different.

For starters, no one would want to give up their sovereignty and fully lose their national identity, regardless of how minuscule or large those differences may be (in some cases, quite significant actually). There's no denying that in such a scenario, the US would be the dominant force and would essentially drown out the other five. It would essentially be akin to an American annexation as opposed to a mere merger.

But, if some of the discrepancies could be resolved, I'm all for it. Imagine being able to drive from BC to Florida without a border, or hoping on a domestic flight to see friends in Glasgow or Sydney without so much as a care in the world.

This would be our new size: (figures given in km, sorry Americans you'll have to get used to the metric system)

Canada: 9,984,670
USA: 9,833,517
Australia: 7,692,024
New Zealand: 270,467
UK: 242,495
Ireland: 70,273

Total: 28,093,446 sq. km (Three massive landmasses, with a couple of islands sprinkled around for good measure )
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Old 07-02-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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A merger is unnecessary to enjoy the fruits of cooperation. An anglosphere trade network, plus continued defense/security cooperation is sufficient.
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Old 07-03-2019, 02:55 AM
 
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A merger is unnecessary to enjoy the fruits of cooperation. An anglosphere trade network, plus continued defense/security cooperation is sufficient.
Australia for example already has trade agreements the US and NZ, and is now negotiating one with the EU which covers Ireland and which the UK would have been covered by had it remained in that grouping. Similarly it has deep security arrangements with both the US, and links to NATO and hence the UK and Canada. So its unclear what deeper cooperation folks could be talking about, or see possible given the different economic neighbourhoods of each.

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Old 07-03-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: PNW
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As a Canadian, I'm actually all for it, though I recognize that I'd be in the minority here. I would love to see the Anglosphere merge into a singular entity, but the reality on the ground is quite different.

For starters, no one would want to give up their sovereignty and fully lose their national identity, regardless of how minuscule or large those differences may be (in some cases, quite significant actually). There's no denying that in such a scenario, the US would be the dominant force and would essentially drown out the other five. It would essentially be akin to an American annexation as opposed to a mere merger.

But, if some of the discrepancies could be resolved, I'm all for it. Imagine being able to drive from BC to Florida without a border, or hoping on a domestic flight to see friends in Glasgow or Sydney without so much as a care in the world.

This would be our new size: (figures given in km, sorry Americans you'll have to get used to the metric system)

Canada: 9,984,670
USA: 9,833,517
Australia: 7,692,024
New Zealand: 270,467
UK: 242,495
Ireland: 70,273

Total: 28,093,446 sq. km (Three massive landmasses, with a couple of islands sprinkled around for good measure )
There are just too many massive legislative and regulatory differences between these six countries for me to see this as being possible this century. Vancouver and Toronto are populated and fast growing because of the country and system of governance its in, not because of their individual culture and geography. You would probably see some depopulation in parts of Canada and the UK and additional concentration/growth in coastal Australia and the US.

Yes, it does seem like a utopia; world is your oyster without immigration/visa/employment hurdles to clear with this but I feel the differences in thinking and upbringing would be far too difficult to overcome.
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Old 07-03-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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The proposed merger seems an attempt to do things the hard way.
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Old 07-04-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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As a Canadian, I'm actually all for it, though I recognize that I'd be in the minority here. I would love to see the Anglosphere merge into a singular entity, but the reality on the ground is quite different.

For starters, no one would want to give up their sovereignty and fully lose their national identity, regardless of how minuscule or large those differences may be (in some cases, quite significant actually). There's no denying that in such a scenario, the US would be the dominant force and would essentially drown out the other five. It would essentially be akin to an American annexation as opposed to a mere merger.

But, if some of the discrepancies could be resolved, I'm all for it. Imagine being able to drive from BC to Florida without a border, or hoping on a domestic flight to see friends in Glasgow or Sydney without so much as a care in the world.

This would be our new size: (figures given in km, sorry Americans you'll have to get used to the metric system)

Canada: 9,984,670
USA: 9,833,517
Australia: 7,692,024
New Zealand: 270,467
UK: 242,495
Ireland: 70,273

Total: 28,093,446 sq. km (Three massive landmasses, with a couple of islands sprinkled around for good measure )
You already had something similar to this at one point.


It was called... "The British Empire".
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