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That is the reason is so ethnically oriented and bigotted.
Because it's full of descendants of unwashed ignorant masses from continents far away coming to our western hemisphere shores.
They brought good things but also that old world hatred.
Outside the north east, most Americans just feel American and are happy being good Americans. In NYC, everyone has to be some form of foreign ethnicity regardless of how long they have been here in this nation.
Unwashed masses including those from the Western hemisphere. We're talking about unwashed masses from all over that eventually integrate for the most part. The Irish were going to bring about the end of civilization, then the Germans were, then the Italians and Jews were--especially the Italians. Italians were supposed to be a fifth column of papists and perverts if you believed the reports of the time and were so repulsive to the general masses that the US passed much more restrictive immigration laws in response to them (they did that with the Chinese as well, but that was more at the insistence of politicians on the West Coast rather than the East Coast). It's easier to not have to test any beliefs when everyone's segregated from each and have little to do with each other, but at the same time, it's also a lot less dynamic place. The old world hatred also doesn't make sense now as this is maybe one of the most peaceable coexistence of people from places like the various religious and ethnic groups of South Asia living in the same neighborhoods in relative peace (probably because of pooled access to resources that remind them of home like certain groceries).
Also, if we're talking about bigots, or Americans that aren't feeling so happy go lucky, there is definitely quite a few places in the US which have had riots based on demographic differences that had just about nothing to do with foreign-born populations. NYC protests and there's this individual acts which are likely to be more numerous in absolute amounts, but it doesn't seem disproportionate to its population size. NYC's been relatively peaceful over the last decade or so, especially for a US city rather than suburb, and you can see it in its stats for both crime rates and incarceration rates. You have states like Alabama and Oklahoma which aren't particularly large destinations for foreign immigration, but homicide and incarceration rates that are pretty bad in comparison--and that's without even large contributions to the nation's wealth and economic prominence with both being net federal spenders rather than contributors as NYS and the NYC area especially are.
Outside of socioeconomic divides, the largest ethnic divide in the US is really from the ramifications of a large group of people descended, unlike for the majority of immigrants and descendants of immigrants, from people who didn't come here looking for economic opportunity or an escape from hardship, but were forcibly brought in to be placed in hardship and as an economic opportunity for others. That may have been a while ago, but that wasn't the end of it. It was also an enforced and near complete breakdown of social and familial structure where families were readily broken up with marriages disallowed and spouses and children freely traded and separated from each other and that people were controlled by violence both on them and among each other as good self-enforcers. I think the general idea that people learn a lot from their home lives and good parenting is key--and so we have a long line of pretty broken parenting with a precedent set long ago aside from larger institutional issues. It's probably why recent West African immigrants who choose to come here are often the most highly educated and successful groups in the US while those who are of supposedly same ethnic descent are generally not as a group.
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Oycrumbler, western hemisphere means the Americas.
Continents far away means Europe.
Europeans went to NYC and brought a lot of that ethnic hatred for everyone who is not like them alongside with them.
Up to this day you have people born here who still think they are italians and Irish eventhough no one in their families is from those places.
Now its russians coming and discriminating everyone who is not white. That is the history of Nyc.
A city full of balkanized hatred while the rest of America moves forward.
I knew that, but misinterpreted that, my mistake.
I don't know if that makes too much sense since Canada has a very large past and recent European immigrant population, and doesn't seem to be having nearly the same amount of issues.
large city in every country = more crime and "colder" people. It's not like you're discovering the wheel here, if you want friendly maybe move to German village idk.
Right. And there's also the fact, OP, that there's been a tendency the last 10-20 years, for authoritarianism and racism, along with homophobia in some cases, to gain political ground. Some of this is in Eastern Europe, post-Soviet crash, but some of it is in Western Europe, along with the US.
As humanity attempts to lurch and stagger forward toward enlightenment, there will be backlash. There will be retrograde moments. Evolution is not a smooth process without errors. Stuff happens, Neanderthals gain ascendance temporarily, then fall by the wayside and die off, as more advanced species rise and and replace them.
Weird that the OP singled out Trump supporters because NYC overwhelmingly supported Clinton in 2016, maybe more than any other region in the country.
Sure it is, it seems a propos of nothing, but one thing about American politics is that even if a place votes "overwhelmingly" for one side, there's usually a sizable contingent that votes for the other. It's good when it comes to actual functioning democracies as opposed to rigged elections where somehow people vote 99.7% or something for just one candidate. I actually take that as a good sign even if I personally think Trump as president has had much more detrimental policies than he has good ones and I grew up very much Republican though for a very different GOP than what mainstream GOP is today.
Weird that the OP singled out Trump supporters because NYC overwhelmingly supported Clinton in 2016, maybe more than any other region in the country.
The biggest irony of this thread is that the white lady the OP mentioned is a major anti-Trump liberal and Hillary Clinton supporter. They doxxed her information and found she donated copious amounts of money to the Clinton, Biden, and Obama campaigns.
The thing is... Modern American people can't be fooled that easily any longer.
It's not the mid 20th century anymore, when abuses went ignored by the masses because we were busy buying the myths being sold to us by the elites of this country. (You are lucky because you are an American, so take it and be happy because you are just so lucky)
The days of the dumb American folk that believed whatever TV told them is over. Millenials are traveling more than ever, society is waking up to the reality that corporations are destroying our planet., the masses are waking up.
Look at the "dirtbag" at central Park, (911... a black man is threatening me omg!!), all he asked her was to leash her dog like the park rules dictated. Had this been the 50s, we would have another Emitt Till.
This nation once you look past the myths, it's a big business ran by corporations that exploit its citizens without remorse.
It's not even about skin color, you can be white and poor and you will still be a simple number that can easily be replaced. Don't believe me? Come visit Kentucky, West virginia, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana etc. White folks living in third world conditions, dying from state neglect, they have it just as bad as poor minorities have it inner cities.
I live in the mountains of North Carolina, the poverty, neglect, drug abuse, violence, awful conditions, misery you can see among the local whites is overwhelming.
This country only cares about the rich and powerful.
We have no health care, our education is expensive and elitist, we are divided by the elites that puts us against one another based on skin color, income, political affiliation.
I'm a late Gen-Xer so my childhood was during the Reagan/Cold War era with the propaganda of America being the only "groovy" country in the world. There's still people with that mindset now, especially with Trump as president.
Until mugged or asked to pay for stuff then presto now republican
That's actually not true. When people talk about a place being majority one party or another for the US, it's almost never except in the case of very small cities or towns that there isn't a large number of people who vote the other way and never all that close to a virtual 99% or even 90% swing towards one way or the other.
In pretty much all big cities the people tend to be more cold and distant, this is just because the fast paced life of these cities.
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