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Old 05-19-2021, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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I mean big cities all over the world having more than 500,000 inhabitants that offer so many activities round the clock even late at night, and not only clubbing and partying activities for nightlife.

For instance, although Madrid and Barcelona have a great nightlife as you can spend all night long drinking, dancing and partying over there, I was told that Moscow is a more true 24-hour city than Madrid because pharmacies, restaurants, dentists, grocery stores or gyms usually open 24/7 in Moscow's city centre. Even other southern European big cities such as Lisbon, Milan, Rome or Athens are much quieter at night than Moscow.

Other European cities such as London is often compared with New York, but in London almost everything close early, even the British pubs.

Berlin is famous for its nightlife because of the bars, breweries and clubs, but stores and supermarkets in Germany usually close early too.

Then we have the Randstad area in The Netherlands where night trains are available all night long, but on the other side almost all stores close at 18:00 or 19:00, which doesn't make the Randstad area as a 24-hour urban area

In the Middle East and Northern Africa just Cairo and Tel Aviv are quite bustling all night long with a lot of traffic jams late at night.

I don't know about East Asia and South America, but I guess big cities there are 24/7.

Any thoughts?
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Yokohama, Japan
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Most East Asian large cities are 24/7 cities, especially Tokyo, Osaka, and Seoul. Tokyo always has at least one area with a huge event going on somewhere, even if it is late. I'm guessing Taipei and maybe Jakarta or Bangkok are like this too but I have never been over there so cannot comment.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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Most East Asian large cities are 24/7 cities, especially Tokyo, Osaka, and Seoul. Tokyo always has at least one area with a huge event going on somewhere, even if it is late. I'm guessing Taipei and maybe Jakarta or Bangkok are like this too but I have never been over there so cannot comment.
I wouldn't say Bangkok is a true 24 hour city. Sure things go on late at night, but the city quiets down after 2am when the legal bars close.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Most East Asian large cities are 24/7 cities, especially Tokyo, Osaka, and Seoul. Tokyo always has at least one area with a huge event going on somewhere, even if it is late. I'm guessing Taipei and maybe Jakarta or Bangkok are like this too but I have never been over there so cannot comment.
I don't think Seoul is either, it can be really quite if you are an early riser.

On my weeding Day (I married my wife in Seoul), my brother and I got up early in the hope of having a good feed and early morning drink at a cafe (Which is very popular in Australia, especially on the weekends). We spent almost and 1 and hour roaming around the restaurants and cafes in Myong-Dong and the neighboring Namdeamun market, before realizing we would have to settle for a couple of plastic stools, a tin of beer and take away dumplings from a 7/11 type place. The area was almost deserted, outside delivery trucks etc.

The fact that the metro also stops running about 1 am every morning is not really helpful in making it a 24 hour city either.

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Old 05-20-2021, 03:15 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Other European cities such as London is often compared with New York, but in London almost everything close early, even the British pubs.
Pubs have been able to apply for late night and flexible opening under the Licensing Act 2003 and can even apply for a 24 hour licence, and a number of pubs open later at weekends.

Open all hours: London’s best late night bars - Evening Standard (London)

Licensing Act 2003 - Wikipedia

Did 24-hour drinking actually change anything? - BBC News (2015)

In terms of clubs and casinos, many open all night, and there are late night shops and supermarkets in the UK, including 24 hour supermarkets.

Some entertainment venues including comedy clubs, theatres, cinemas, gyms etc also operate late night shows and this is especially the case at Weekends, whilst restaurants are also increasingly opening later to meet demand as the night time economy continues to grow.

Some services are 24 hour including emergency pharmacies, petrol (gas) stations, emergency plumbers and there is even a 24 hour hairdressing service.

In terms of travel, London now has the Night Tube and also has Night Buses, whilst there are a vast number of Black Cabs and licensed taxis operating 24 hours a day.

The night-time economy is a growing part of the UK economy. Nationally, it is the UK's fifth-biggest industry, accounting for at least 8% of the UK's employment and annual revenues of £66bn, according to the Night Time Industries Association.

London represents up to 40% of the £66bn estimate for the total UK night-time economy. This economic activity directly supports 723,000 jobs – one in eight in the capital. A large number of these are in the bars, restaurants, clubs, shows and hotels central to London's nightlife and tourism.

The UK has a growing night time economy in terms of Central city districts, however the 24 hour culture has to be balanced in more suburban areas, in order that people who live there do not have their quality of life impacted.

24 Hour London Vision - Greater London Authority

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Old 05-20-2021, 06:23 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I mean big cities all over the world having more than 500,000 inhabitants that offer so many activities round the clock even late at night, and not only clubbing and partying activities for nightlife.

For instance, although Madrid and Barcelona have a great nightlife as you can spend all night long drinking, dancing and partying over there, I was told that Moscow is a more true 24-hour city than Madrid because pharmacies, restaurants, dentists, grocery stores or gyms usually open 24/7 in Moscow's city centre. Even other southern European big cities such as Lisbon, Milan, Rome or Athens are much quieter at night than Moscow.

Other European cities such as London is often compared with New York, but in London almost everything close early, even the British pubs.

Berlin is famous for its nightlife because of the bars, breweries and clubs, but stores and supermarkets in Germany usually close early too.

Then we have the Randstad area in The Netherlands where night trains are available all night long, but on the other side almost all stores close at 18:00 or 19:00, which doesn't make the Randstad area as a 24-hour urban area

In the Middle East and Northern Africa just Cairo and Tel Aviv are quite bustling all night long with a lot of traffic jams late at night.

I don't know about East Asia and South America, but I guess big cities there are 24/7.

Any thoughts?
Basically that's simply not true, it seems to be one of those (many) completely wrong stereotypes about the UK. I can shop at the supermarket 24 hours a day, I can drink 24 hours a day and I can get a coffee 24 hours a day - and I don't even live in a city but a pretty small town.
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Old 05-20-2021, 07:04 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Basically that's simply not true, it seems to be one of those (many) completely wrong stereotypes about the UK. I can shop at the supermarket 24 hours a day, I can drink 24 hours a day and I can get a coffee 24 hours a day - and I don't even live in a city but a pretty small town.


You can also order food and services via your phone 24/7, as well as grocery shop and have it delivered.

As for entertainment and television and internet services, the choice is vast.

Most people have 24 hour services at their fingertips, especially in cities and suburban areas.
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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Basically that's simply not true, it seems to be one of those (many) completely wrong stereotypes about the UK. I can shop at the supermarket 24 hours a day, I can drink 24 hours a day and I can get a coffee 24 hours a day - and I don't even live in a city but a pretty small town.
Really? Such things are not possible all night long in Spain, except maybe the very city centre of Madrid and Barcelona during weekends.

Ordering a pizza by phone at 4:00 AM on Wednesday and wait at home until a guy send it to you by driving a motorbike?
Going to the grocery store at 5:00 AM on Friday as you wake up in the middle of the night as you noticed that there is no milk for the incoming breakfast?
Going to the dental clinic at 2:00 AM? Certainly not in Spain.
You can find many people walking outdoor and heading towards bars or nightclubs everywhere in Spain on Friday and Saturday night and many others having dinner in terraces until 11:00 PM or even later, especially in summer, but not for doing errands or something along the lines.

If so, then I would say that the UK is a more 24-hour country than Spain.

Anyway, I don't understand why night trains are available all night long in the Randstad area of NL when most grocery stores and supermarkets close at 6:00 PM, unless many people are working night shifts in the industry or whatever. In fact, almost everywhere in NL is so quiet from 6:00 PM to the next sunrise.

Anyway, from what I've heard, Moscow, Cairo and Tel Aviv are more bustling at night than any city in Europe so far. I don't know about Istanbul and Ankara, though.
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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What about the biggest cities in Canada and Mexico? Do they have the same 24-hour pattern than NYC, L.A. and Las Vegas?
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:56 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I didn't realize Moscow is a 24-hour city.

That is cool to know.
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