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More guns to more people or less guns to less people?

Posted 11-05-2017 at 05:48 PM by switchtoecig
Updated 11-05-2017 at 06:26 PM by switchtoecig


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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87
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Give teachers access to the tools of defense...
OK, I live in the country geographically and historicaly very different from US, and therefore avoid your gun discussions... still the quoted bit struck me as one-sided.


This source tells me that roughly one quarter of US owns all its guns.

Gun Ownership in America in Three Charts
According to the same source, 3% own 50% of the guns. You seem to be in these 3%.

So far, so good.

However, here's the problem - why do you assume that most teachers would be thrilled by your proposal or at least ready to accept it? Let me remind you, 75% of US has no weapons. Since it is relatively easy to obtain them in your country, why do you think most of them don't have any?

IF you really think about it, aren't you now trying to impose something you love or like to someone who may well be horrified by it? Only to avoid people looking for solutions while going in the direction you like less.




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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87 View Post
It's a solution to the problem at hand. May not be a popular one. But it's one that would work.


Manipulation via emotion. Emotion is irrelevant.
If you tell someone repeatedly something is inherently evil, enough times over they'll believe it. (Goebbles, Hitler, Goering)

Case in point. My mother is 70 years old. She's never fired a gun in her life until I moved down to florida.
She has a concealed carry permit has 2 pistols and prefers my AR15 over my SKS Mini 14/30 M1A and AK platform rifles.

Same with my sister. She's on her 3rd pistol I built her a pink AR and she wants my Shockwave.

I can remove that instilled fear and empower anyone, if I can get 2 nurses who were terrified of guns owning and shooting.

Its Not a matter of what I like or anyone likes really.

It's a matter of this country has become inundated with feeble weak emotional beings. I for one am not one of the emotionally driven and scared.
I acknowledge there is a threat to my life every time I get behind the wheel of my trucks or behind the handle bars of my harley, no helmet mind you, Florida doesn't have helmet laws... Do I let that threat consume me? Absolutey not.

For others however they see these events happen and are compelled by emotion.
They don't take a logic approach. They'd rather trade liberty for security.
I am not one of them.
So you say that more guns in the hands of more, even if unwilling, people would be the solution.

Teacher profession is full of ladies like me. We'd shoot ourselves in the foot sooner or later. Litteraly. Not necessarily because we are emotional. We're just not into it.

As an army brat, I had two father's guns at home. Knew where they were stored, had full access to it, and was never interested. Neither was my brother. In high school we had to learn shooting. I forgot all about it as soon as I got my credit. No problem holding a gun, just felt happy not to have to hold it any more. My weapon of choice would be pepper spray.

In the 90s when there was a war here in Croatia, I learned to avoid being shot while being under gun and artillery fire for months, only to confirm what I already knew – how senseless it all is. So, I'm not some sheltered upper class or celebrity schmuk who preaches no guns while being surrounded by armed guards and sheltered by high gates. Their attitude is repulsive to me as it may be to you. Because they are talking from the place of hipocrisy.

It all comes down to where we look for solutions – no matter if we are talking about low intensity „war“ in US or a full force war. I look at it as something that should or should have been prevented or hopefully will be one day. It shouldn't happen. But now it has, what are we to do? There is another thread with good question: more guns to more people or less guns to less people.

Whoever is very protective to 2nd amendment like you are, is all up in arms when there is even a peep about gun control. Now, there are people who are ready to be the change they want to see in the world. They want world with less weapons, so they are ready to live unarmed. Even in places that aren't so safe. It doesn't mean they are cowards, or too emotional, feeble or brainwashed.

Actually, they might be quite the oposite. They may believe in a gradual change in culture, evolution in consciousness and the way people treat each other.

Btw. that helmet might save your armed a$$ while on harley, laws or no laws. There's still more danger of falling off the motorbike than being shot at.
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