I guess its official.... (mobile home, cost of, foods)

[LadyAuke]

Originally Posted by SityData

If everyone would band together and OCCUPY the White House - in record numbers of peaceful demonstration we might get some much needed results from the most transparent administration in the history of the United States of America - see? Everything is the exact opposite of what Obitler claims!

Health Care won't add one dime to the deficit - 1.76 TRILLION but not a dime more!!

Get real. The Japanese have a health care system provided by the government and their health care costs are among the lowest in the developed world.
We can't afford not to fix our broken health care system.

Also, have you heard of Godwin's law?

[SityData]

Originally Posted by LadyAuke

Get real. The Japanese have a health care system provided by the government and their health care costs are among the lowest in the developed world.
We can't afford not to fix our broken health care system.

Also, have you heard of Godwin's law?

Despite the proven fact: 85% of the American people are against it!!

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by SityData

Despite the proven fact: 85% of the American people are against it!!

Against what, Godwin's Law?

[gobrien]

Originally Posted by SityData

Despite the proven fact: 85% of the American people are against it!!

I'm not agreeing with your percentage but even if that many were against it, it's because they've been brainwashed by propaganda very well and don't even know it. So many other 1st world countries laugh at the United States because of how easily manipulated we are-countries that enjoy better health care and standards of living.

Now before somebody gets the urge to tell me to move there, I am an American and I would like for us to improve this country.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by gobrien

I'm not agreeing with your percentage but even if that many were against it, it's because they've been brainwashed by propaganda very well and don't even know it. So many other 1st world countries laugh at the United States because of how easily manipulated we are-countries that enjoy better health care and standards of living.

Now before somebody gets the urge to tell me to move there, I am an American and I would like for us to improve this country.

I also question Sity's statistic of 85% against PPACA - but he is correct that it is largely unpopular. It only passed by a handful of votes - and the SCOTUS case is likely to come back against ObamaCare. We are not Europe - and our health care system can be reformed without passing a heavy handed law that creates even more problems. I believe that PPACA will be found unconstitutional - and that if the 15 proposals that Republican members of Congress attempted to place into PPACA, which were rejected by the Democrats, are implemented - that our health care system will be streamlined, made "healthier", all without having to place unconstitutional mandates on people as a condition for them for breathing air.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by wildchild_to

The Dem, and the Rep don't have anyone worth a squat running. We need an average Joe American for president.

Like "Joe Sixpack"? or "Joe the Plumber"?

[wildchild_to]

Originally Posted by LadyAuke

Close tax loopholes and simplify the tax code- why in the world should I, a full time healthcare worker and part time student living in a 400 square foot apartment, pay a higher tax rate than billionaires with three homes who hide their money in Swedish bank accounts and vacation in the tropics while I get vomited on by chronic inebriates in the emergency room who are shuttled between the jail and the hospital because our system is so messed up that no one has any clue what to do with them?

You don't have to worry about them having Swiss acounts, many businesses are taking there headquarters out of the USA. If the rich pay 15% so sould everyone else in the US.

You will see more of this in the future.

Eduardo Saverin, the billionaire co- founder of Facebook Inc. (FB), renounced his U.S. citizenship before an initial public offering that values the social network at as much as $96 billion, a move that may reduce his tax bill.


Facebook Co-Founder May Gain Choosing Singapore Over U.S. - Bloomberg

[wildchild_to]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Like "Joe Sixpack"? or "Joe the Plumber"?

Sure not Obama. Even Bill Clinton calls hims an "armature"

Bill Clinton calls Obama ‘amateur’ president: book - NYPOST.com

[stiffnecked]

Originally Posted by LadyAuke

Get real. The Japanese have a health care system provided by the government and their health care costs are among the lowest in the developed world.
We can't afford not to fix our broken health care system.

Also, have you heard of Godwin's law?

They have the lowest health care costs cause they are not fat and obese like millions and millions of Americans. Attack the obesity and laziness problem in America and health care costs will come down.

A few questions. Why is it the governments problem to do anything about health care costs? Why is it there responsibility? Why can't Amercian grow up and take care of their own health care? Geez, the government can't even properly regulate the amount of cream filling in a Hostess Twinke!!!

[LadyAuke]

Originally Posted by wildchild_to

You don't have to worry about them having Swiss acounts, many businesses are taking there headquarters out of the USA. If the rich pay 15% so sould everyone else in the US.

Certainly. My argument is not that the rich should be taxed more- merely that they should be taxed the same, it's really only fair.
What tax rate we should pay, I don't really know. It depends on how much the government actually needs to perform its functions- and based on what I have seen with the GSA scandal I can't help but wonder if what the government needs is to be given less. That said, every time congress is asked to trim something it seems like social programs for poor women and children get thrown on the chopping block which speaks to me of a major problem with priorities that needs to be addressed both within government and in our society as a whole.