For those who believe America is Babylon... (Anchorage, Fairbanks: 2014, how much)

[The Town Crier]

Hey, does anyone in Alaska believe that America is Babylon the Harlot of Revelation?

If you do, I have a few questions. I am considering a move to Alaska and need would like some more information. Are there any good Christian 'off the grid' communities up there? ( not cult like) but people who live according to the word of God because they believe it. America is going to suffer God's judgment soon and I don't think it a coincidence that around the same time America started to change,we acquired Alaska for 2 cents an acre...I think AK might still be a place Christians can move to and live a Godly lifestyle...Thus far, it appears that most of Alaska has not suffered the same level of moral corruption as the lower 48... It also looks like most of AK is still fairly pristine, people still know how to work hard, how to live off the land, and are even willing to help those they don't know. Am I wrong on those things or is that a fair assessment?

Any one else out there that is like minded please chime in and give your thoughts! I am looking for other Christians who believe America is Babylon and are trying to figure out what to do now...For those of you who do not believe the Bible is true, I urge you to go read this thread and give it some serious consideration.. https://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/2182316-america-babylon.html#post36084919

The Town Crier

[Metlakatla]

LOL. You've been watching too many "shows," buddy.

If you think that most people in Alaska know how to "live off the land," well...

[AnonymouseX]

And I'd say "off the grid" separated intentional communities are pretty much cult status. Whateverbtye ideology.

[AKStafford]

The Mt. Bether community on Game Creek near Hoonah, Alaska might be what you are looking for. The locals call it "The Farm".
There's not a lot of web links that I can provide, other than a blog post from a former resident: http://wildernessblues.blogspot.com/...reek-2011.html

[The Town Crier]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

LOL. You've been watching too many "shows," buddy.

If you think that most people in Alaska know how to "live off the land," well...

I don't watch TV chief...

I am suggesting that outside of the 'cities' people still grow gardens, raise chickens and cows, they still hunt and fish, and probably know how to can and dry meats/vegetables... Is everyone in Alaska really in bondage to 'supermarkets'? Is everything they eat processed and boxed? If so that is really sad to hear.

TC

[warptman]

I grow my own Cranes...



I plant them every spring, delicious!

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by The Town Crier

I don't watch TV chief...

I am suggesting that outside of the 'cities' people still grow gardens, raise chickens and cows, they still hunt and fish, and probably know how to can and dry meats/vegetables... Is everyone in Alaska really in bondage to 'supermarkets'? Is everything they eat processed and boxed? If so that is really sad to hear.

TC

Nope, you're just applying -48 standards to Alaska.

Your cows are going to starve unless you have a way to import hay and other food for them. You won't be able to grow enough. Chickens are going to need excess food as well. Gardens -- some people grow pretty good hobby gardens in Alaska, but I wouldn't advise trying to grow enough food for the family or livestock. BTW, you'd be better off hunting moose or caribou for meat than raising cattle. Most of Alaska also doesn't have much grazing for cows. There's some agriculture in Alaska, but most of it just isn't cut out for a Little House on the Prairie scenario.

The way to "live off the land" in Alaska is to literally "live off the land" by taking what it offers, and that can only be done in certain parts of the state. There's a reason why interior Natives were nomadic...

You don't have to play farmer to avoid supermarkets, btw.

Living off the land in the north country is all about time. Your time is much better spent gathering berries for winter use than trying to baby along a vegetable garden that may well fall victim to marauding moose within the course of an hour or two...or killed by an early, unexpected freeze, eaten by birds...you'd pretty much have to build a cage around it -- a really strong cage, because if a moose or a bear wants your lettuce, it's probably going to get it. Even then, the Homer area and the Mat-Su notwithstanding, soils in the state generally aren't that good. In SE, for instance, the rain leaches most of the nutrition out the ground. Trying to graze a cow on what grows there would cause the animal to starve if supplementary food weren't in the picture, and vegetable gardening requires abundant soil amendments.

[The Town Crier]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Nope, you're just applying -48 standards to Alaska.

Your cows are going to starve unless you have a way to import hay and other food for them. You won't be able to grow enough. Chickens are going to need excess food as well. Gardens -- some people grow pretty good hobby gardens in Alaska, but I wouldn't advise trying to grow enough food for the family or livestock.
Most of Alaska also doesn't have much grazing for cows. There's some agriculture in Alaska, but most of it just isn't cut out for a Little House on the Prairie scenario.

The way to "live off the land" in Alaska is to literally "live off the land" by taking what it offers, and that can only be done in certain parts of the state. There's a reason why interior Natives were nomadic...

You don't have to play farmer to avoid supermarkets, btw.

Living off the land in the north country is all about time. Your time is much better spend gathering berries for winter use than trying to baby along a vegetable garden that may well fall victim to marauding moose within the course of an hour or two...or killed by an early, unexpected freeze, eaten by birds...you'd pretty much have to build a cage around it -- a really strong cage, because if a moose or a bear wants your lettuce, it's probably going to get it. Even then, the Homer area and the Mat-Su notwithstanding, soils in the state generally aren't that good. In SE, for instance, the rain leaches most of the nutrition out the ground. Trying to graze a cow on what grows there would cause the animal to starve if supplementary food weren't in the picture, and vegetable gardening requires abundant soil amendments.

That is the kind of post I was hoping to get... Thank you for your perspective.

I want to be able to buy/sell whatever I need at the local markets/ stands etc where the food is fresh and not pesticide/GMO garbage( that is why everyone has cancer these days)


What did you mean by; "You don't have to play farmer to avoid supermarkets, btw"

TC

[The Town Crier]

Originally Posted by warptman

I grow my own Cranes...



I plant them every spring, delicious!

LOL what? Serious or just kidding around? How much meat does one of those produce and how long to butcher size? I suppose they 'taste like chicken' right...:>)

TC

[The Town Crier]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Nope, you're just applying -48 standards to Alaska.

Your cows are going to starve unless you have a way to import hay and other food for them. You won't be able to grow enough. Chickens are going to need excess food as well. Gardens -- some people grow pretty good hobby gardens in Alaska, but I wouldn't advise trying to grow enough food for the family or livestock. BTW, you'd be better off hunting moose or caribou for meat than raising cattle. Most of Alaska also doesn't have much grazing for cows. There's some agriculture in Alaska, but most of it just isn't cut out for a Little House on the Prairie scenario.

The way to "live off the land" in Alaska is to literally "live off the land" by taking what it offers, and that can only be done in certain parts of the state. There's a reason why interior Natives were nomadic...

You don't have to play farmer to avoid supermarkets, btw.

Living off the land in the north country is all about time. Your time is much better spent gathering berries for winter use than trying to baby along a vegetable garden that may well fall victim to marauding moose within the course of an hour or two...or killed by an early, unexpected freeze, eaten by birds...you'd pretty much have to build a cage around it -- a really strong cage, because if a moose or a bear wants your lettuce, it's probably going to get it. Even then, the Homer area and the Mat-Su notwithstanding, soils in the state generally aren't that good. In SE, for instance, the rain leaches most of the nutrition out the ground. Trying to graze a cow on what grows there would cause the animal to starve if supplementary food weren't in the picture, and vegetable gardening requires abundant soil amendments.

I am considering down below Anchorage somewhere...So I don't think that it will be "North country". Even up in Fairbanks, I understand the growing season is over 6 months long. Is that wrong? I was thinking somewhere around Kenai, Homer, or Seward perhaps. I am looking at all options though...Again, thanks for the info.

TC