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Old 10-29-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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If you pay state taxes to Alaska out of your military pay...you should be entitled. Come on folks their would be no Alaska without the military defending ones freedom or United States for that matter!

I have gathered from reading this site the div is for the pricey cost of living in Alaska....if so whether you are military or civilian one should be entitled! Booyah!

Oh, by the way if you pay it in your taxes you should be entitled if you pay Alaskan taxes. Home of Record issue...a military person can't change there home of record, but they can change their residency to reflect on their LES. Paycheck for non-military folks. Soooooo, relax and lets take a bite out of gangs not shots at the Military!

Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave!


We don't have a State Tax in Alaska as you may have noted from many replies here. Now keep smiling and just wave.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Thanks for the clarification, good luck to the OP, one thing is for certain which I have thought about.....if the PFD is to help for the cost of living and you are in the military stationed elsewhere, perhaps everyone against giving PFD to people not living in Alaska is right on this matter. The only way I can see fit for people to recieve it is if they come to Alaska once a year and are residents of Alaska or if they own property! I have changed my mind from reading everyone's opinions!

Yes I changed my spots! Thanks for educating me.
Kudos to you for learning! But, lets go a little farther, just to make it more complete. The Permanent Fund has absolutely nothing to do with "if the PFD is to help for the cost of living".

The PF has roots that go back to the very first attempts in Congress to make Alaska a State, and of course that was based on ideas developed when Congress was merely asked to pass the 1884 Alaska Organic Act to get some form of government in Alaska! The problem was, how does a government in Alaska fund itself? In 1916, when Statehood was first proposed in Congress, nobody could think of a way to fund government in Alaska, and Congress declined to consider Statehood.

It wasn't until after WWII (when the obvious military benefits to the US of developing Alaska were known to everyone), that a serious look at Alaska statehood was made, and that is when the notion that since what Alaska has are natural resources, then a socialist form of government where the State of Alaska owned those resource in common for all of the people, was the solution to funding a State government.

It had never been tried by the United States before. It has apparently (near as one can tell in a short 50 year history) worked well. The future, however, depends on something the State came up with immediately after the money from oil at Prudhoe Bay began to flow. Rather than spend all of the money as it comes in, put some in a savings account. That is what the Alaska Permanent Fund is. It is there to fund government at some future time when Prudhoe Bay and other natural resources are not providing sufficient operating funds.

The Dividend (PFD) is a bit of social engineering devised to protect the Fund from politicians! A portion of the earnings are distributed to the citizens of Alaska (the "people" that the State represents as the "in common" owners of all natural resources). The effect of course is that no elected politician is likely to survive a serious bid to do anything that will reduce the PFD. Spending the Fund is the prime example of "political suicide"!

That's a very short thumbnailish history, but it provides a bit of perspective on why people react the way they do in discussions, particularly with non-Alaskans, about the PFD.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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I cannot rep you again Floyd but I wanted to give you some kudos for your most gracious and intelligent reply!
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Our son who is now two was borne outside of Alaska (2007) and has never lived in AK due to where we have been stationed. He has always recieved his PDFs. hope this helps.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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My Dad was stationed on Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage, AK for a few years several years ago. We did have to become residents of the state and we did have to wait the calendar year before being able to recieve any PFD. I don't have any problem with military getting PFD while there and contributing to the community. I went to a public school, held a local job, etc. My mother attended the university and volunteered. And, obviously, my father was in the AF.

Once my father got orders to another base, we applied to become residents of that state (Arizona), thus losing our Alaskan residency and the PFD benefits. I don't understand why some military families don't become residents of the state they are in. When we were in Mississippi, we knew a military family that had a house off base and would drive to Alaska yearly just to get the PFD even though they had no intentions of returning to live in Alaska.

My father is now retired AF (21 yrs) and working in Fairbanks, AK as a civilian. We will apply again again for residency and wait the calendar year and meet the needed requirements as we did before. I don't understand why all military families don't do this. It really does seem unfair to the people IN Alaska.

Honestly, I don't know how your kid(s) could recieve the PFD without ever having been in AK. Unless something fishy was going on.
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Our son who is now two was borne outside of Alaska (2007) and has never lived in AK due to where we have been stationed. He has always recieved his PDFs. hope this helps.
I wouldn't say that too loudly.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Our son who is now two was borne outside of Alaska (2007) and has never lived in AK due to where we have been stationed. He has always recieved his PDFs. hope this helps.
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I wouldn't say that too loudly.
I think this is a gray area and they should be okay in that children born or adopted to a resident sponsor are eligible. The 72-hour rule will apply, so I don't think they'll qualify for a 2010 dividend.
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:11 PM
 
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hey i am new to the military life, my fiance joined the army and got posted in kansas, i flew down here to get married and have been living here, would i still be eligible for the PFD? like if i were to get my license down here would i still be able to get it?
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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edited--read your post wrong. No, I don't think so.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Fairbanks, AK
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No, it is not a temporary abscence for an approved reason and you don't live here.
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