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Old 09-28-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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You better get a move on before you slush in....
Yep, it has been getting colder each year, four years ago, the boats were pulled at the end of October, that area we were working was shut down last week due to ice.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Agreed.

I sure like that blue and white boat. She's a beauty.
It is a really nice running on a chop too, handles like a dream with the twin hulls....
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Like as in the Polar Bear Club?
Brrrrr
Nah, they do that in the summer when it is "Warm".... like in the high thirties... maybe low forties....
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Ditto on Warp's, thanks all! But we just get to take photos of what is already there, we just get to see it in person...

Wrong! You are both artists. You do a lot more than "just take photos of what is already there....."

You and Warptman make the pictures come to life.

Thanks for that.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Wrong! You are both artists. You do a lot more than "just take photos of what is already there....."

You and Warptman make the pictures come to life.

Thanks for that.
OK, I concede you win, I will let Warp argue with you....
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Took a neat photo looking South this morning heading back from West Dock, which is this one here...

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs215.snc1/8216_154991312216_709992216_3162598_3055380_n.jpg (broken link)

This photo is enlarged from the center a bit of the one above.... The mountains you see on the distance horison, are about 140 miles away...The Brooks Range...
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs215.snc1/8216_154991322216_709992216_3162599_431378_n.jpg (broken link)

This photo is enlarged from the one above where you can see the mountains again.
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs215.snc1/8216_154996102216_709992216_3162616_4727838_n.jpg (broken link)
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Well last year we were at Olicktoc Point and were there for three years running boats til freeze up. The first year, we were out at the end of October, the second year by the 15th and last year about the third of October. This year, on the way to Point Lonely Saturday (26th), the ice was out from Olicktoc almost a mile on the outside of the Barrier Islands. The company that got our contract this year, had their boats out of the water about the 24th of this month at Olicktoc due to ice freezing on the bay, so it is even earlier this year than last by about a week.

Basically each years has been getting colder by about a week or two for the last four years. In the past, the snow comes in small amounts and then melts, now here in Prudhoe Bay, most of the ponds are froze over.

Global Warming isn't warming in a nut shell, here in the Arctic it has been getting colder a little bit earlier each winter. Part of job with the boats we run, is hauling Scientist out to deploy all sorts of test equipment for taking reading of current speed, noise, water temp's and all sorts of into, and they tell us there is a cooling "Trend", which is now called "Climate Change" since "Globall Warming" isn't.....

It will be a day or two before we have to pull our boats here. Olicktoc freezes a bit earlier by a week or so than Prudhoe Bay does because the river water feeding into the bay area there is fresh water and it freezes a bit earlier than Salt water, but the trend is getting colder.... and the ice is builiding here in Prudhoe Bay.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Basically each years has been getting colder by about a week or two for the last four years. In the past, the snow comes in small amounts and then melts, now here in Prudhoe Bay, most of the ponds are froze over.

Global Warming isn't warming in a nut shell, here in the Arctic it has been getting colder a little bit earlier each winter.
Maybe you can get a better perspective of why your questionable observations, even if true, do not logically lead to the conclusions you seem to draw, if you take a look at this graphic:



Or perhaps even more perspective is required to understand:




Or, if that doesn't get the point across, let me be explicit. Your observations of weather have very little significance in relation to climate change, which is what "global warming" references.

(BTW, you didn't see any Humpback whales. They were most likely Bowhead whales of course, but could also be Grey whales.)
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Maybe you can get a better perspective of why your questionable observations, even if true, do not logically lead to the conclusions you seem to draw, if you take a look at this graphic:



Or perhaps even more perspective is required to understand
This was a few days ago... exactly where is your Global Warming when four years ago, there was no snow until the end of October or ice forming on the water, this is Sept a month earlier and a few days.....
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs235.snc1/8216_153754112216_709992216_3148606_3547975_n.jpg (broken link)


Your right, they may have been Bowhead whales.

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Old 09-30-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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exactly where is your Global Warming when four years ago...
Look at the graphs and explain how any data for four years could mean what you say your data means. Four year up and down cycles happen with regularity. The question is what happens over a 10 or 100 or 1000 year period. It is what you say it is not...

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Your right, they may have been Bowhead whales.
Well, they certainly were not Humback whales. So much for your powers of observation...
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