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View Poll Results: Burquenos preference for Phoenix or Denver?
Phoenix 6 13.95%
Denver 37 86.05%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:37 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Actually the TV show "Suburgatory" is based on a suburb outside of NYC, NYC has plenty of burbs.
I never said there were no suburbs of NYC. That's ridiculous, I grew up in one. Obviously, it was located outside the city. For someone from the East, cities in the Southwest and mountain West feel very suburban inside the cities. I am very familiar with the historic reasons for this, I was just making an observation.

Someone said Denver was very urban, but it has a population density (city-county) of only 3874/sq. mi. By contrast, NYC's density is 28,403/sq. mi. According to Wikipedia, there are dozens of suburbs of NYC with densities more than 10,000/sq. mi. For example, Hempstead, Long Island, has a density of 15,366/sq. mi. (it is funny to note that Hempstead is classified as a "village" in NY). By comparison, the city of Phoenix's density: 3072/sq. mi. Albuquerque: 3010/sq. mi. List of United States cities by population density


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Old 10-30-2011, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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I never said there were no suburbs of NYC. That's ridiculous, I grew up in one. Obviously, it was located outside the city. For someone from the East, cities in the Southwest and mountain West feel very suburban inside the cities. I am very familiar with the historic reasons for this, I was just making an observation.

Someone said Denver was very urban, but it has a population density (city-county) of only 3874/sq. mi. By contrast, NYC's density is 28,403/sq. mi. According to Wikipedia, there are dozens of suburbs of NYC with densities more than 10,000/sq. mi. For example, Hempstead, Long Island, has a density of 15,366/sq. mi. (it is funny to note that Hempstead is classified as a "village" in NY). By comparison, the city of Phoenix's density: 3072/sq. mi. Albuquerque: 3010/sq. mi. List of United States cities by population density


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Population Density doesn't make a city imo. It makes a city more crowded.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Population Density doesn't make a city imo. It makes a city more crowded.
To each his/her own. Seeing lively street life with lots of pedestrians is something that I will always associate with the urban environment. They are much more a part of the cityscape back east (and in Europe, Asia, Latin America) than they are in the American Southwest which is far more car-dependent.
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Old 10-30-2011, 08:02 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Population Density doesn't make a city imo. It makes a city more crowded.
Yes, that is your opinion, but different than my opinion and what the term normally means. Population Density is the number of people living per unit of an area (e.g. per square mile); the number of people relative to the space occupied by them. If there is one person standing in a deserted square mile, the Population Density would be 1.0 per square mile. Population Density is a key and common geographic term.

More information is available here: Population density - Wikipedia encyclopedia


And now hopefully that issue has been clarified, lets try and stay on topic which is "Burquenos....Phoenix or Denver?



Rich
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Yes, that is your opinion, but different than my opinion and what the term normally means. Population Density is the number of people living per unit of an area (e.g. per square mile); the number of people relative to the space occupied by them. If there is one person standing in a deserted square mile, the Population Density would be 1.0 per square mile. Population Density is a key and common geographic term.

More information is available here: Population density - Wikipedia encyclopedia


And now hopefully that issue has been clarified, lets try and stay on topic which is "Burquenos....Phoenix or Denver?



Rich
I can agree with this.
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Old 10-30-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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I've been to Denver a number of times and I like it well enough. I have good friends living there so I will likely visit again in the future. When I move to ABQ in 4 months I'd like to plan some roadtrips to Arizona down the road and I've never been to Phoenix. Phoenix doesn't get a lot of love, especially from New Mexicans. I'd like to see Sedona/Flagstaff/Grand Canyon which are totally at the top of my list for that state, but for and urban weekend away would Tucson be more intriguing? I'd like to hear some positive points about Phoenix. I know it's a new city that grew to fast but there's gotta be something worthwhile, Papago Park looks interesting. I guess I'm asking Burqueño point of view as I already know I love New Mexico, so I'm wondering if Tucson is more favorable. I don't have a lot of experience with Arizona.
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Old 10-31-2011, 08:29 AM
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I'd like to see Sedona/Flagstaff/Grand Canyon which are totally at the top of my list for that state...
Ah, now you're talking.

Sedona in March/Apr is a great get away.
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Old 10-31-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The smell of orange blossoms in Phoenix around March is great... instead of shivering in ABQ you can hit the motel swimming pool in Phoenix. Ahhh...

I have spent more time in Tempe than Phoenix proper (conferences and such), the area around ASU is nice, and Scottsdale is also popular with visitors although it's been so long since I was there I can't remember anything. On the drive to the Phoenix area I always take the "scenic route" through Quemado and Springerville and make a stop at the Boyce Thompson Arboretum in Superior AZ. In Tempe, the Arizona Historical Society has a museum which had an excellent exhibit on Japanese-American concentration camps in Arizona during WWII.

But Spring in Phoenix can bring winds and the infamous haboob, or gigantic dust storm. Some unlucky people people get lung infections from them.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Northern Arizona
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When cacti flowers blossoms in the spring it releases spores that can, when inhaled, lead to Valley Fever.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: 5,400 feet
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When cacti flowers blossoms in the spring it releases spores that can, when inhaled, lead to Valley Fever.
As can gigantic dust storms.

However, I can also sit here in NM in early spring, looking out any window of my house, at any number of junipers releasing their white clouds of pollen and know that my allergies will engage momentarily.
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