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Old 09-28-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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They have a few masters of Spirits spread about, I had a lengthy conversation with one in at Diageo's Cocktail Revolution tasting in Paradise Valley. We had a pretty good discussion about the demise of the Johnny Walker Green and Gold, nice guy.
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Diageo
you got it, that was the name. I not only am not a scotch drinker, though most of the family is, I can't remember my name 1/2 the time, how can I remember a name like that? OK, so I can remember my name, but I certainly have always been terrible with names...
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:33 AM
 
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I wish the scotch whisky (no e) powers that be would outlaw chill filtration and caramel coloring. You can't do that to bourbon, so why scotch? At least the label should state it if it does.
Politics. Mediocre distillers covering up their mediocrity with caramel have lots of power in that country. They've even forbid the Good Boys who don't put caramel in from mentioning it on the bottle. It's pathetic.

Anyway in spite of the fact that post-2000 Johnny Walker Black is the most egregious example of caramel-sodomized whiskey, I am unapologetic in my preference for it versus any single malt I can find in its price range (>35 a bottle). Where I live that is a short list: Glenfiddich 12, Glenlivet 12.

I really don't understand how either of these whiskeys get good reviews. I think they are both all over the place. At least glenlivet is light and kind of fruity, but it's just confusing to me, not sure what it wants to be then rounds out w/ ZERO finish.

Unfortunately buying single malt requires I step up to around 50 a bottle. Now we have dozens of fun options. Most of the time I just drink JW Black these days..

If I could change one thing about whiskey snobbery in my circle anyway it would be the appreciation of different quality grain whiskeys. JW Black uses damn good, consistent grains. The difference matters.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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I wish the scotch whisky (no e) powers that be would outlaw chill filtration and caramel coloring. You can't do that to bourbon, so why scotch? At least the label should state it if it does.
I like this idea, on the flip side though, distillers do tend to advertise if they are peddling an un-chill filtered Whisky, Bruichladdich, Edradour, Signatory's Un-chill Filtered collection, and Deanston, which goes as far as to put "Un-Chill Filtered ( the way it should be)" on the label, throw it right out there. So even though it's not a requirement, those that do, don't hesitate to let everybody know.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Snow Phoenix is actually Glenfiddich.
I've had my 'fiddiches and 'livets mixed up, my apologies sir.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I'm haven't tried too many, but if I could have Macallan 18 for the rest of my life it would be fine. We drink JW Black for everyday.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Politics. Mediocre distillers covering up their mediocrity with caramel have lots of power in that country. They've even forbid the Good Boys who don't put caramel in from mentioning it on the bottle. It's pathetic.

Anyway in spite of the fact that post-2000 Johnny Walker Black is the most egregious example of caramel-sodomized whiskey, I am unapologetic in my preference for it versus any single malt I can find in its price range (>35 a bottle). Where I live that is a short list: Glenfiddich 12, Glenlivet 12.

I really don't understand how either of these whiskeys get good reviews. I think they are both all over the place. At least glenlivet is light and kind of fruity, but it's just confusing to me, not sure what it wants to be then rounds out w/ ZERO finish.

Unfortunately buying single malt requires I step up to around 50 a bottle. Now we have dozens of fun options. Most of the time I just drink JW Black these days..

If I could change one thing about whiskey snobbery in my circle anyway it would be the appreciation of different quality grain whiskeys. JW Black uses damn good, consistent grains. The difference matters.

A couple things about price. I think Johnnie Walker Black is good but not great. But if you live in an area where your choices are limited it is still a good choice. I would add though that some whiskies that are a higher priced are a better value. How you ask? You have to pay close attention to the ABV. So, for instance JW Black is bottled at 40% abv (alcohol by volume). Which means they basically take the various whiskies out of the cask and water them down until it reaches 40% abv (which is the minimum you can bottle scotch at). That comes out to about 88 cents per 1% abv (35/40=.88). But if you buy the Laphroaig cask strength or the Abelour A'bundah (which is already at cask strength) both are about 60% abv and cost about $60. So, that comes to a $1 for 1% abv (60/60=1). So in the end you are only paying a bit more for something that I think is a lot better. Hopefully that wasn't too nerdy and made sense. Basically the more alcohol the more flavor and the less watered down the spirit. You may not add water to your whisky but if you are not buying cask strength then the distillery is already doing it for you. Personally, I like to add my own water instead of letting the distillery do it for me. Do keep a close eye on that ABV!
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Old 10-30-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Best whisky I tasted (new hobby, so do share pointers for some great whiskeys as I am starting to collect).

Yamazaki 18 years old.
Multi dimensional drink.

Had the first taste just in its pure element...
Very heavy, slow but definite warmth of smokey orangey oak. Surprisingly smooth in pure form.

Then it's opened with iced water, just a splash.
It releases a fragrant fruit nose and a rich silky palette of aromatic oils.

It's one great tasting whiskey I love.
Very memorable.
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Old 10-30-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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Nikka 21.

Another great whisky. I still love the Yamazaki (first love thingy you know) but this is a close favorite.

I think this has a slight smokier note to the Yamazaki.
More woodsy then fruit or flora nose. I think maybe the greenhorn drinker in me is not as expert to appreciate it as a fav.. but I still enjoyed it. Not bitter so it's a great finish to appreciate the summer supper with a fine cigar.
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