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No, I just don't want to discount something because of lack or weak evidence.
That is how this whole thing works. If you have evidence that it works, then you have something. If you have no evidence then your hypothesis is just that. You need to have some evidence to prove something.
I believe the body is capable of ridding itself of cancer. We know that cancer is relative to a metabolic disorder that is no longer held in check by the body's efforts. So I don't think that the statement was at all ridiculous. If the body gets what is needed (the mystery here), then it will eliminate the cancer problem.
"We" know no such thing..
"Cancer" isn't a single entity, there are many different types with different causes and behaviors....there will never be a single cure for cancer because cancer isn't a singular entity.
Clearly "the body" isn't capable of ridding itself of cancer at some point, again, if it were possible, it would happen...it doesn't happen therefore it isn't possible.
And yes the statement referenced was beyond ridiculous, I can think up a hundred different disease states/conditions/illnesses that the "body" is not capable of curing on its own without even really trying hard...
"Cancer" isn't a single entity, there are many different types with different causes and behaviors....there will never be a single cure for cancer because cancer isn't a singular entity.
Clearly "the body" isn't capable of ridding itself of cancer at some point, again, if it were possible, it would happen...it doesn't happen therefore it isn't possible.
And yes the statement referenced was beyond ridiculous, I can think up a hundred different disease states/conditions/illnesses that the "body" is not capable of curing on its own without even really trying hard...
Illogical conclusion. Doesn't matter how many different forms of cancer there is. As long as we address Cancer's unique attributes that make it a "cancer", we can defeat it.
This is such a ridiculously naive and uninformed statement it should be highlighted but is not deserving of a response....
Who do you presume cures disease then? God? Doctors? Oh wait, that's being redundant, isn't it.
There is no EXTERNAL magic, dear bluedevilz, it is only our own body that cures itself. Even before The Lord of Antibiotics created his magical brew, people were actually RECOVERING from diseases that modern medicine would rather have us believe were uncurable, yes, even Tetanus, Rabies and the Bubonic Plague, historically have had survivors (not many, I'll grant you), and most (if not all) cancer survivors have their own immune system to thank far and above the poisonous cocktails that modern medicine has concocted to take the credit.
That is how this whole thing works. If you have evidence that it works, then you have something. If you have no evidence then your hypothesis is just that. You need to have some evidence to prove something.
Well there is evidence. Brain tumors were completely cured in mice and the video I posted in the OP goes into that.
Well there is evidence. Brain tumors were completely cured in mice and the video I posted in the OP goes into that.
A YouTube video hardly counts as evidence. Where are studies, reports, all being peer reviewed? Where's the data? Good solid data? Sorry, your video doesn't count.
Who do you presume cures disease then? God? Doctors? Oh wait, that's being redundant, isn't it.
There is no EXTERNAL magic, dear bluedevilz, it is only our own body that cures itself. Even before The Lord of Antibiotics created his magical brew, people were actually RECOVERING from diseases that modern medicine would rather have us believe were uncurable, yes, even Tetanus, Rabies and the Bubonic Plague, historically have had survivors (not many, I'll grant you), and most (if not all) cancer survivors have their own immune system to thank far and above the poisonous cocktails that modern medicine has concocted to take the credit.
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Originally Posted by trettep
I believe the body is capable of ridding itself of cancer. We know that cancer is relative to a metabolic disorder that is no longer held in check by the body's efforts. So I don't think that the statement was at all ridiculous. If the body gets what is needed (the mystery here), then it will eliminate the cancer problem.
I was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer a month after my 23rd birthday. No family history of ANY kind of cancer, healthy eating habits (in fact, I had done ketogenic diets in the past - didn't know my weight problem was a result of having 15lbs of tumor in my body and my hormones all out of whack because of the cancer!), active lifestyle, not rolling around in toxic sludge (and we even did environmental testing at my childhood home to see if my brother or parents were at risk - nada, just pure country earth). Sometimes, it just happens. And if I had modified my diet alone in hopes that my immune system would let me survive, I'd have died a long, drawn out, excruciating death before I was 25 years old.
My strong immune system was what kept my cancer from killing me despite growing for 5 years undiagnosed - but it still grew.
Modifying diet and taking supplements is fine, and often encouraged by oncologists and onco-nutritionists, in conjunction with a tested, approved plan of treatment. But it's not going to work alone.
I was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer a month after my 23rd birthday. No family history of ANY kind of cancer, healthy eating habits (in fact, I had done ketogenic diets in the past - didn't know my weight problem was a result of having 15lbs of tumor in my body and my hormones all out of whack because of the cancer!), active lifestyle, not rolling around in toxic sludge (and we even did environmental testing at my childhood home to see if my brother or parents were at risk - nada, just pure country earth). Sometimes, it just happens. And if I had modified my diet alone in hopes that my immune system would let me survive, I'd have died a long, drawn out, excruciating death before I was 25 years old.
My strong immune system was what kept my cancer from killing me despite growing for 5 years undiagnosed - but it still grew.
Modifying diet and taking supplements is fine, and often encouraged by oncologists and onco-nutritionists, in conjunction with a tested, approved plan of treatment. But it's not going to work alone.
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Okay, people, this thread is getting overly contentious. Remember, this is an alternative medicine forum and people are free to discuss treatments that do not have related studies, reports, data, etc.
Also, please keep to the topic and do not get too personal--avoid personal attacks and that includes sarcastic remarks to people. If someone does attack you, remember to report them, not fight with them. Infractions will be issued if rules are broken.
I was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer a month after my 23rd birthday. No family history of ANY kind of cancer, healthy eating habits (in fact, I had done ketogenic diets in the past - didn't know my weight problem was a result of having 15lbs of tumor in my body and my hormones all out of whack because of the cancer!), active lifestyle, not rolling around in toxic sludge (and we even did environmental testing at my childhood home to see if my brother or parents were at risk - nada, just pure country earth). Sometimes, it just happens. And if I had modified my diet alone in hopes that my immune system would let me survive, I'd have died a long, drawn out, excruciating death before I was 25 years old.
My strong immune system was what kept my cancer from killing me despite growing for 5 years undiagnosed - but it still grew.
Modifying diet and taking supplements is fine, and often encouraged by oncologists and onco-nutritionists, in conjunction with a tested, approved plan of treatment. But it's not going to work alone.
Well the moderator cut my last comment as if it was rude but it was a serious question. So here goes a different way of asking, do you think it is by chance that your cancer will not return? I ask because you seem to insist that diet had nothing do with it which means that anything put into your body would be ruled out.
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