COVID-19: This is more important than handwashing and avoiding crowds (infection, research)
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Or he may have just ignored the advice to avoid crowds and wash his hands frequently.
Or maybe he did follow it. Maybe he followed the stupid advice to avoid groups larger than 10 because we all know there can't be any sick people in groups of 10 or less. Maybe he didn't realize that washing his hands wouldn't protect him from a virus that could be airborne.
Fortunately it didn't hospitalize or kill him because --- his immune system.
Last edited by SimplySagacious; 03-25-2020 at 10:59 AM..
Actually, no, I wouldn't automatically assume that he is in robust good health. Haven't seen him since he retired and don't know what he has been doing. He could be chronically stressed, fatigued, sleep deprived, nutritionally deficient, or have an underlying condition.
"Now that I am working, I swim in the morning and I do all my technical skills and aerobics. In the evenings, I’ll do cross fit, where I’ll do my anaerobic, VO2 max and threshold stuff in the gym. That’s just to keep my mind fresh after all these years of swimming.”
"'I know that I will always look after myself for health reasons. My father, unfortunately, didn’t look after himself all that well and I have lived first-hand through that and his struggles with health. I would never want to become a prisoner of my own health, or my bad health, should we say,' he said.
'Even when I’m not racing – I’m only going to be racing in December again – I’m always looking for goals to set to help myself keep in shape. For instance, I have the wedding coming up, so there is just a mental thing of training to look good on the day of the wedding. There are mental things that sport has helped me with to be driven, to achieve my goals.'”
He was training for the 2020 Olympics.
Why is it so hard to accept that healthy people catch viruses?
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Or he may have just ignored the advice to avoid crowds and wash his hands frequently.
From the link above, way before the coronavirus:
"I do worry about shaking hands, and I am also particular about that more towards when I am racing so I don’t get sick. That’s my normal life. I have a healthy lifestyle because it has become easy for me.”
"Now that I am working, I swim in the morning and I do all my technical skills and aerobics. In the evenings, I’ll do cross fit, where I’ll do my anaerobic, VO2 max and threshold stuff in the gym. That’s just to keep my mind fresh after all these years of swimming.”
"'I know that I will always look after myself for health reasons. My father, unfortunately, didn’t look after himself all that well and I have lived first-hand through that and his struggles with health. I would never want to become a prisoner of my own health, or my bad health, should we say,' he said.
'Even when I’m not racing – I’m only going to be racing in December again – I’m always looking for goals to set to help myself keep in shape. For instance, I have the wedding coming up, so there is just a mental thing of training to look good on the day of the wedding. There are mental things that sport has helped me with to be driven, to achieve my goals.'”
He was training for the 2020 Olympics.
Why is it so hard to accept that healthy people catch viruses?
From the link above, way before the coronavirus:
"I do worry about shaking hands, and I am also particular about that more towards when I am racing so I don’t get sick. That’s my normal life. I have a healthy lifestyle because it has become easy for me.”
No one said that a healthy person can't get the virus. Washing hands and avoiding groups of more than 10 doesn't prevent healthy people from getting it. New England Journal of Medicine says that the virus is airborne for up to 3 hours, so washing hands won't help if you are exposed and obviously a group of 10 or less could consist of one or more infected people. Washing hands, not shaking hands and avoiding crowds larger than 10 only reduces your risk.
He's training for the olympics? I thought he retired. In that case, there is a near 100% chance that he was stressed, possibly fatigued, etc., which can lower immunity making you more susceptible to a virus, or hit harder than expected and taking longer to recover. Fortunately his immune system was good enough to prevent hospitalization or death.
Last edited by SimplySagacious; 03-25-2020 at 02:29 PM..
No one said that a healthy person can't get the virus. Washing hands and avoiding groups of more than 10 doesn't prevent healthy people from getting it. New England Journal of Medicine says that the virus is airborne for up to 3 hours, so washing hands won't help if you are exposed and obviously a group of 10 or less could consist of one or more infected people. Washing hands, not shaking hands and avoiding crowds larger than 10 only reduces your risk.
He's training for the olympics? I thought he retired. In that case, there is a near 100% chance that he was stressed, possibly fatigued, etc., which can lower immunity making you more susceptible to a virus, or hit harder than expected and taking longer to recover. Fortunately his immune system was good enough to prevent hospitalization or death.
You are making a lot of unfounded assumptions. He got infected because he was exposed to a virus he had never had before. His immune system is helping him recover, and there is no reason to expect that he has an immune deficiency of any kind. By his own description he is very health conscious.
Washing hands, not shaking hands and avoiding crowds larger than 10 only reduces your risk.
Yep. Risk reduction is the name of the game. I know people who are completely staying at home.
You are making a lot of unfounded assumptions. He got infected because he was exposed to a virus he had never had before. His immune system is helping him recover, and there is no reason to expect that he has an immune deficiency of any kind. By his own description he is very health conscious.
There are reasons to suspect that an athlete in intense training could have a lowered immune response. They are under tremendous pressure to perform, it's stressful and can lead to lowered immunity and/or underlying conditions. It's more prevalent in athletes than you might think.
Stress weakens the responses of your immune system. "That's because stress decreases the body's lymphocytes, the white blood cells that help fight off infection. The lower your lymphocyte levels, the more you're at risk for viruses" https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates...-immune-system
Athletes have many health problems related to high levels of stress including, but not limited to, IBS, respiratory conditions, diabetes, ulcers, etc. Stress and Anxiety in Athletics | The Sport Digest
Olympians-in-training undergo intense and prolonged exercise routines, often accompanied by specific dietary requirements. But studies have shown that these practices can have adverse effects on the body and, in particular, on the gastrointestinal system. https://www.livescience.com/61735-ol...rformance.html
Those are just a few that could have affected his immune response. How he rates his health when talking to reporters means nothing to me. If he has had any underlying issues, it's highly unlikely that he would reveal those details to reporters for it to become cheap fodder. Many people with underlying conditions, on multiple prescription meds, etc., rate themselves as very healthy. I see it all the time here on CD.
There are reasons to suspect that an athlete in intense training could have a lowered immune response. They are under tremendous pressure to perform, it's stressful and can lead to lowered immunity and/or underlying conditions. It's more prevalent in athletes than you might think.
Stress weakens the responses of your immune system. "That's because stress decreases the body's lymphocytes, the white blood cells that help fight off infection. The lower your lymphocyte levels, the more you're at risk for viruses" https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates...-immune-system
Athletes have many health problems related to high levels of stress including, but not limited to, IBS, respiratory conditions, diabetes, ulcers, etc. Stress and Anxiety in Athletics | The Sport Digest
Olympians-in-training undergo intense and prolonged exercise routines, often accompanied by specific dietary requirements. But studies have shown that these practices can have adverse effects on the body and, in particular, on the gastrointestinal system. https://www.livescience.com/61735-ol...rformance.html
Those are just a few that could have affected his immune response. How he rates his health when talking to reporters means nothing to me. If he has had any underlying issues, it's highly unlikely that he would reveal those details to reporters for it to become cheap fodder. Many people with underlying conditions, on multiple prescription meds, etc., rate themselves as very healthy. I see it all the time here on CD.
And you know that he, specifically, had any of those problems? I hate to break it to you, but there are individuals who thrive on stress.
By the way, many things you list as being caused by "stress" are not, including ulcers.
And you know that he, specifically, had any of those problems? I hate to break it to you, but there are individuals who thrive on stress.
By the way, many things you list as being caused by "stress" are not, including ulcers.
You don't know any more about his medical history than I do. Your claim was that we all would consider him to be in robust good health. I said that I don't automatically assume that he was and have provided some reasons why that may not necessarily be the case. No more, no less.
Saw this study today that found that consuming too much salt weakens the immune system. Volunteers who consumed an additional 6 grams of salt per day showed pronounced immune deficiencies. This amount corresponds to the salt content of 2 fast food meals. It's difficult to know just how much salt you consume when you eat fast food, processed and packaged foods and drinks.
You don't know any more about his medical history than I do. Your claim was that we all would consider him to be in robust good health. I said that I don't automatically assume that he was and have provided some reasons why that may not necessarily be the case. No more, no less.
I am going by what he said himself.
You wish to assume he is lying.
I see no reason for him to.
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Maybe he followed the stupid advice to avoid groups larger than 10 because we all know there can't be any sick people in groups of 10 or less. 
Maybe he didn't realize that washing his hands wouldn't protect him from a virus that could be airborne. 
