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Old 06-08-2016, 12:54 AM
 
Location: BC Canada
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There is obviously hunger in Venezuela. Venezuela has always had grotesque levels of social and economic stratification. Just because there is food to eat doesn't mean people could afford it.


Now of course the situation is far more dire and with soaring inflation and more countries cutting off trade it will only get worse. Also just because a person is not going 'hungry" does NOT mean they are not suffering from malnutrition.


Someone may be able to get enough beans so they are not hungry but that doesn't mean they are eating a healthy diet which can lead to developmental delays in children and susceptibility to diseases and health conditions in adults associated with a weakened immune system brought on by malnutrition. This is made worse by Venezuela's healthcare system which is on the verge of collapse.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:37 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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There is obviously hunger in Venezuela. Venezuela has always had grotesque levels of social and economic stratification. Just because there is food to eat doesn't mean people could afford it.


Now of course the situation is far more dire and with soaring inflation and more countries cutting off trade it will only get worse. Also just because a person is not going 'hungry" does NOT mean they are not suffering from malnutrition.


Someone may be able to get enough beans so they are not hungry but that doesn't mean they are eating a healthy diet which can lead to developmental delays in children and susceptibility to diseases and health conditions in adults associated with a weakened immune system brought on by malnutrition. This is made worse by Venezuela's healthcare system which is on the verge of collapse.
The people elected Chavez and kept electing him. Not the fault of countries that don't want to go unpaid for their exports.
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:41 AM
 
Location: BC Canada
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Never said you could blame companies for not dealing with Venezuela because they aren't getting paid but that doesn't change the reality that there is hunger in Venezuela and now widespread malnutrition.
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Old 06-15-2016, 05:06 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Never said you could blame companies for not dealing with Venezuela because they aren't getting paid but that doesn't change the reality that there is hunger in Venezuela and now widespread malnutrition.
If the regime allows itself to fall we should get involved; not just shovel in money, or food that a corrupt government will sell on the black market. Help at this stage would be futile.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:38 AM
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Location: On the Border
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The people elected Chavez and kept electing him.
Because he said what they wanted to hear in a very loud bellicose way. Ignorant people glom on to that like moths to a flame.
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Old 06-15-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I feel the conflict in terms of feeling too bad for places that continue to re-elect the same person or party for leadership in general. Outside help will only take any country so far. Once other countries assit they frequently then get heavily critized by the same people that were thought to need the assistance.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Canada
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. Once other countries assit they frequently then get heavily critized by the same people that were thought to need the assistance.
Can you give an example?
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:56 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Because he said what they wanted to hear in a very loud bellicose way. Ignorant people glom on to that like moths to a flame.
How would you feel if the price of aid was tha the country had to abandon both socialism and aid to other insurrections in South America and elsewhere? Would that be "interference" in Venezuela's internal affairs. The duty to help does not equal the duty to pour money into a black hole. Or food or other necessities to be sold by crooks on the black market.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:13 PM
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How would you feel if the price of aid was tha the country had to abandon both socialism and aid to other insurrections in South America and elsewhere? Would that be "interference" in Venezuela's internal affairs. The duty to help does not equal the duty to pour money into a black hole. Or food or other necessities to be sold by crooks on the black market.
I would feel that we could never enforce those prerequisites absolutely. I think we should help hungry people because they're hungry.

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Old 06-16-2016, 01:24 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I would feel that we could never enforce those prerequisites absolutely. I think we should help hungry people because they're hungry.
How much aid do you think would reach the hungry? My guess is none or not much.
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