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Both Colombia and Brazil have some of the world's most unequal income distribution so higher PPP doesn't necessarily mean that the average person is better off than some one in Guyana/Suriname. Both Guyana and Suriname have decent sized Brazilian populations.
Well it sort of does, not to mention if Suriname was in Colombia it would be only be the 10th largest city population-wise. Access to a top 25 world ranked healthcare system according to the World Health Organisation, access to quality higher education - 10 universities in the global Top 1,000 half of which are public, better infrastructure, access to more cheap flights & global connectivity, cheap products thanks to larger market & FTAs, etc.
Undoubtedly Colombia and Brazil are and have been among the most unequal countries in the world, however, Colombia is continuing its downward trend and is now out of the top 10 when previously its was second only to South Africa.
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Ooops my bad! I actually just saw that Suriname is ranked high on the inequality index too! Higher than Colombia in fact although the latest figure is only from 1999. I wonder why Suriname hasn't provided relevant data. Could it mean its actually become more unequal?
Another Caribny myth debunked.
I wonder your reasoning for your insatiable attempts and wanting to put Latin American countries down at every opportunity. So much so that you manipulate to the point of telling lies or omitting facts like in this case by distracting from Suriname's inequality rating - interesting.
The Suriname Brazil border is EMPTY. Almost no one lives there. The Brazilians living in Suriname come from the northeast as evidenced by the 4 weekly flights from Belem. Georgetown is hundreds of miles away from the border with Brazil and yet loads of Brazilians LIVE there, so many that there are businesses which cater to them.
So yes you do imply that these must be less Brazilian because this is NOT just about crossing a river. This is about traveling HUNDREDS of miles.
People from Boa Vista – RR and also Manaus – AM travel to Lether, the Guyanese border city for shopping and there is a road from Lether to Georgetown and buses services. If they go to Suriname they do from Guyana.
In Amapá is the same with French Guyana, there is road and people from Pará, trip trough Amapa getting Suriname from French Guyana.
The Brazilians in these countries are mostly goldminers clandestines, ilegal… Norther Brazilian looking for better life don’t immigrate to neighborn countries, they down to souther Brazilians big cities.
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Ooops my bad! I actually just saw that Suriname is ranked high on the inequality index too! Higher than Colombia in fact although the latest figure is only from 1999. I wonder why Suriname hasn't provided relevant data. Could it mean its actually become more unequal?
Another Caribny myth debunked.
I wonder your reasoning for your insatiable attempts and wanting to put Latin American countries down at every opportunity. So much so that you manipulate to the point of telling lies or omitting facts like in this case by distracting from Suriname's inequality rating - interesting.
Suriname's income inequality comes out of its large Maroon population in the interior. People isolated from the modern world until the 1970s and about 20% of the population. This because there was no infrastructure in these locations.
Now how large is Colombia's Amazonian population? If it is 20% then we can have a chat.
People from Boa Vista – RR and also Manaus – AM travel to Lether, the Guyanese border city for shopping and there is a road from Lether to Georgetown and buses services. If they go to Suriname they do from Guyana.
In Amapá is the same with French Guyana, there is road and people from Pará, trip trough Amapa getting Suriname from French Guyana.
The Brazilians in these countries are mostly goldminers clandestines, ilegal… Norther Brazilian looking for better life don’t immigrate to neighborn countries, they down to souther Brazilians big cities.
This is the road from Lethem to Georgetown. Its 400 miles, over 60% is like this. So continue to tell me that this is a mere border crossing. A Brazilian going up this road to Georgetown has to have a truly high motivation to do so. This isn't a mere shopping or tourist visit. Often these buses break down or get stuck. Accidents aren't unusual. It takes at least a day for help to arrive.
The Brazilians going to Suriname arriving on GOL, which flies weekly and Suriname Airways which flies 3x weekly. They fly from Belem and hundreds of miles of French Guyana separate. Those going overland must cross a fairly wide river in a small canoe. Again not a mere border crossing out of Brazil.
You can question the motives for these people but clearly benefitting financially is the core of this.
Suriname's income inequality comes out of its large Maroon population in the interior. People isolated from the modern world until the 1970s and about 20% of the population. This because there was no infrastructure in these locations.
Now how large is Colombia's Amazonian population? If it is 20% then we can have a chat.
This just shows your ignorance and your desperation in distracting from your initial argument. Your initial argument didn't mention that we had to take isolated geographical & cultural spaces into account? You simply referenced inequality. Now you're conveniently adding this argument. Well, if that's the case let's play ball...
You're obviously totally ignorant of Colombia. Colombia is perhaps even above Tibet the most difficult geographical space on the planet. It's not just the Amazon dude! Colombia has innumerable geographical barriers that have kept populations isolated even up till the present day.
There's the large Savannah region of the Llanos, like the Serengeti of South America and part of the Orinoco basin. There's the desert region of the northern Caribbean coast, the notorious Darien gap, the most rainy and biodiverse place on the planet which is a completely different rainforest from the Amazon know as the Chocoan rainforest, three! Yes Three! Gigantic Andean ranges that dissect the entire country from north to south and which create two of the 100 longest rivers in the world in its canyons which then collide to form the Caribbean marshlands known as the Mompox depression and the highest coastal mountain range in the world.
We can carry on chatting because traditionally isolated peoples in these vast regions accounts for more than 20% of the Colombian population! Next?
This is the road from Lethem to Georgetown. Its 400 miles, over 60% is like this. So continue to tell me that this is a mere border crossing. A Brazilian going up this road to Georgetown has to have a truly high motivation to do so. This isn't a mere shopping or tourist visit. Often these buses break down or get stuck. Accidents aren't unusual. It takes at least a day for help to arrive.
The Brazilians going to Suriname arriving on GOL, which flies weekly and Suriname Airways which flies 3x weekly. They fly from Belem and hundreds of miles of French Guyana separate. Those going overland must cross a fairly wide river in a small canoe. Again not a mere border crossing out of Brazil.
You can question the motives for these people but clearly benefitting financially is the core of this.
My God! You want know more about someone who live in the country and has the insight! People in South America travel continental distances by road, is very common migrants from Para or Northeast Brazil get in São Paulo or Rio or Brasilia by buses.
Of course the ones that are there, are benefitting economically most of them are seeking for gold.
People isolated from the modern world until the 1970s and about 20% of the population. This because there was no infrastructure in these locations.
FYI and just as one example. Thousands of river islands in and around the Mompox Depression in the Caribbean marshlands at least 3 x size of Jamaica have been isolated and continue to be even until now. This is what the collision of two of the 100 longest rivers in the world causes. Only now is appropriate infrastructure being built for these UNESCO & National heritage communities. This is the epicentre of Colombia's main Zambo identity.
Zambo communities of the Mompox depression and surrounding cienagas and river islands...
Mohana or Mojana is not a S.Pacific disney character - it's the mother spirit of the water of the Mompox Depression...
As the above there are dozens more isolated communities across the country in the vast difficult to reach geographical spaces. So Caribny I suggest a little bit more research and less ignorance on your part. Still waiting for your next deviating argument?
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just shows your ignorance and your desperation in distracting from your initial argument. Your initial argument didn't mention that we had to take isolated geographical & cultural spaces into account? You simply refWe can carry on chatting because traditionally isolated peoples in these vast regions accounts for more than 20% of the Colombian population! Next?
Income inequality in Colombia is NOT due to the presence of isolated groups who refused to engage with the 20th century functioning, as was the case of Surinam Maroons. These people escaped from coastal interests in the 17th century and willfully continue to live a subsistence existence, even as jets landing at the airport roared over their villages. The result has been low socio-economic status. And as coastal interests have displaced them from their lands to facilitate gold and forestry projects, they feel vindicated with this thinking.
In any case Colombia has more income inequality than does Guyana.
I know that your rage is because I refuse to allow you and others to hide the existence of anti black racism in Latin America even as you are very vocal about its existence in the USA. I cannot help you though. Colombia's government statistics showed that the "afro descendant population," which includes those who identified using categories which imply some African ancestry, are so poor that 75% earn minimum or less than minimum wage. These are people who operate within the context of the modern Colombian economy. Now go and rage.
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