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Old 05-13-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Glitch, your post just reiterated what I said (well except for the incorrect assertion that you made stating that Peking is the Mandarin romanization of Beijing). Romanization of Chinese is PinYin, and it is irrelevant when identifying locations. That is to say, "Beijing" in Chinese in "Beijing" to foreigners.

My question was why do people refer to Beijing Duck as Peking Duck, when Peking is no longer correct nomenclature for Beijing?
What part of "Peking is the Mandarin romanization spelling of Beijing" did you not understand? They used the Roman Latin letters in place of Mandarin Chinese characters. It is also known as Hanyu Pinyin. The pinyin system was developed in the 1950s and became the international standard in 1982. The recipe for Peking Duck predates pinyin by several hundred years. Beijing was known as Peking to the non-Mandarin speaking people prior to 1950.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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Glitch, the word 'BEIJING' itself is Hanyu Pinyin. You are totally missing my post because you are so interested in explaining something that is (1) wrong, and (2) irrelevant. I want to know why in contemporary vernacular, references to Beijing is still being done by some as Peking. Drawing upon your last post, one could make the hypothesis that it is *because* Beijing had long been called Peking by foreigners that today such a name persists in lieu of the more correct nomenclature.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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This is a good read regarding 'Beijing' versus 'Peking'.

http://www.sino-platonic.org/complet...ng_beijing.pdf
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Might as well just call it Daffy Duck because you can't get real Chinese food here in Alaska.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:07 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Glitch, the word 'BEIJING' itself is Hanyu Pinyin. You are totally missing my post because you are so interested in explaining something that is (1) wrong, and (2) irrelevant. I want to know why in contemporary vernacular, references to Beijing is still being done by some as Peking. Drawing upon your last post, one could make the hypothesis that it is *because* Beijing had long been called Peking by foreigners that today such a name persists in lieu of the more correct nomenclature.
Gee whiz... why so serious about the name of a dish? I'm Chinese American, and I will ALWAYS call it Peking Duck. Why not waste time debating General Gau's Chicken versus General Tsao's Chicken? Who the F cares really? Because I don't and no one in my family does either. And btw I'm not offended by the existence of American Chop Suey.

Cuisines are constantly evolving. And Chinese restaurants have altered many dishes to suit the American taste buds and desire for more meat and less vegetables. And the names are also designed to make the dishes more appealing. And I don't consider that not calling it Beijing Duck is any American being disrespectful to the Chinese.

But if you really care to be super duper authentic, only order with your waiter entirely in Chinese and also learn how to write your orders in Chinese characters. But what I find is that while Mandarin is now the official dialect of mainland China, most Chinese Americans speak the Cantonese dialect or the Taiwanese dialect.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:09 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Glitch, the word 'BEIJING' itself is Hanyu Pinyin. You are totally missing my post because you are so interested in explaining something that is (1) wrong, and (2) irrelevant. I want to know why in contemporary vernacular, references to Beijing is still being done by some as Peking. Drawing upon your last post, one could make the hypothesis that it is *because* Beijing had long been called Peking by foreigners that today such a name persists in lieu of the more correct nomenclature.
Also... I think that if you look at most menus in America, you will find that most Chinese restaurants still call it Peking Duck. So if the restaurant owners and workers don't care, I don't see what you are getting your panties all bunched up.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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You mean like:

Home Town Korean
3020 Minnesota Dr
Anchorage, AK 99503
(907) 277-2211

Johnny Woos Korean Restaurant
12801 Old Glenn Highway
Eagle River, AK 99577
(907) 622-2020

Korean Garden

300 E. Dimond Boulevard
Anchorage, AK 99515
(907) 522-5556

Alright, you got me! Thanks though.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:20 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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We had roast breast of duck at work tonight. And knowing how much I love duck, one of the chefs told me this joke...

"What do you call a duck that's looking around a corner?

A Peeking Duck!!!"

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Old 05-14-2013, 09:47 PM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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We had roast breast of duck at work tonight. And knowing how much I love duck, one of the chefs told me this joke...

"What do you call a duck that's looking around a corner?

A Peeking Duck!!!"

What do you call a duck that's walking around with a Vote for Joe Miller sign?

A Loon.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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I thought thats what you call the voters...
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