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Old 05-19-2011, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Obviously A LOT has changed in housing since '08. Many observers draw parallels between our time and craftsman movement of the early 20th century, when the majority found themselves turned off by perceived Victorian excess and embraced a smaller, more manageable and authentic lifestyle, embodied by the homes built during the time like the craftsman style bungalow.

I don't believe history necessarily repeats itself, but it does rhyme... I see the mcmansion backlash, the shrinking size and more traditional designs of new homes and a vigorous art scene as evidence of a new crafstman movement.

What do you think? Will the next decade or two bring us something similar in home design, style? Will the population at large want and seek a more authentic lifestyle?
Supply and demand. With a huge shadow inventory, owning and putting extensive remodeling into a house has lost its value in America. This is the worst market since the great depression of 1930. People aren't paying 3x the value just because of crown molding, etc.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Great question. I think if you also ask, what is a sustainable form of architecture that doesn't sacrifice on aesthetics, you would come up with the superadobe structure pioneered by Nader Khalili. I heard about this recently on the radio (Studio360) and was intrigued enough to look for myself.

Check out the slide show - and know that these homes cost about $25,000 to build and they are energy efficient and will withstand earthquakes. This would be my dream house ... on five acres of horse property with mountain views in the desert southwest. ahhh ...
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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eplans.com - House Plan: Ultra Compact

You're going to see more of these. Not made for a large family, but for a single or couple, less building material, much less heat or cooling, and since property tax is based on sq ft of area, the taxes are cheaper as well. Looking at the economy and ever-increasing taxes, look for more of them in the near future.

Ultra-Compact Home

You'll also notice that it isn't just the Japanese that are doing it either. You can find sites all over the world where housing is getting smaller than compact cars.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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Obviously A LOT has changed in housing since '08. Many observers draw parallels between our time and craftsman movement of the early 20th century, when the majority found themselves turned off by perceived Victorian excess and embraced a smaller, more manageable and authentic lifestyle, embodied by the homes built during the time like the craftsman style bungalow.

I don't believe history necessarily repeats itself, but it does rhyme... I see the mcmansion backlash, the shrinking size and more traditional designs of new homes and a vigorous art scene as evidence of a new crafstman movement.

What do you think? Will the next decade or two bring us something similar in home design, style? Will the population at large want and seek a more authentic lifestyle?
Not everyone likes the mcmansion. I have been in construction most of my life and have always loved the work that goes into a craftsman style home. The detail is just awesome in these homes.

I can tell you that the track homes built in the 70s were better built then the mcmansion homes of today. But even they can't compete with a craftsman's home.

busta
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Northwest Indiana
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I think there are plenty of people that would like a second "craftsman" era. Will it happen. Nope, not a chance.

Why? The cost of materials and labor. The only way to have a second "craftsman era" would be to figure out an more affordable style with some of today's better materials (there are some, in fact some great stuff out there).

I wouldn't be able to recreate my 1950's ranch with the materials it has for a reasonable cost, let alone the far more detailed and higher quality material of the craftsman era.

If I tried to recreate my 50's house, I could not have the oak strip flooring though-out the whole house(as is all the bedrooms, halls, dining, living rooms). I could not have my split shake cedar siding, the plaster walls, solid wood in the framing (instead of plywood), the cast iron tubs or wood framed windows.

The craftsman style normally had plenty of interior wood trim (in oak), stained glass art windows, fully ceramic tiled bathrooms, built ins in most rooms, tile or shake roofs, brick or stucco exteriors in addition to the oak floors, wood windows, plaster walls. None of those things go into affordable homes today, and are rare even in expensive ones.

So no, there won't be a second craftsman style outside of a handful of houses.
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Obviously A LOT has changed in housing since '08. Many observers draw parallels between our time and craftsman movement of the early 20th century, when the majority found themselves turned off by perceived Victorian excess and embraced a smaller, more manageable and authentic lifestyle, embodied by the homes built during the time like the craftsman style bungalow.

I don't believe history necessarily repeats itself, but it does rhyme... I see the mcmansion backlash, the shrinking size and more traditional designs of new homes and a vigorous art scene as evidence of a new crafstman movement.

What do you think? Will the next decade or two bring us something similar in home design, style? Will the population at large want and seek a more authentic lifestyle?
IMO the last Craftsman revival showed up around 2002, so no I don't think it's time for another go around so quickly.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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To just about everyones point. The only Craftsman revival you will ever get is in custom homes.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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I'm gonna have change my mind and agree with everyone else. I certainly am one of those would want a large scale craftsman revival, but I guess it's stupid to expect that smaller homes will somehow become better built homes.

While they are getting better porportioned, in the end they are still pressboard 'n drywall boxes made with the same cheapo materials...

...In other words, welcome to the age of the McBungalow.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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The early 2000s neo-Craftsman revivial in the Midwest is only now tricking down here:

Mill Creek Farms in Baker combines country living with city convenience | convenience, country, mill - Northwest Florida Daily News

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The result has been seven floor plans that fit into Florida’s climate, but Wise also provides Southern Living floor plans that can include his custom builder touches. Mill Creek Farms has given Wise an opportunity to highlight his latest Craftsman-style plans.

“There’s so much boxiness out there on the market today, so much lack of design,” Wise said. “I think the beauty of the Craftsman design helps us to stand out.”
We're never going to see Greene & Greene quality mass produced again, but there's a place for those kinds of elements in modern construction.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:14 AM
 
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While I'm not exactly rich, I never dug myself into a hole like many and am not struggling simply to survive. Most of the people I know aren't either. While there is plenty of doom and gloom to go around and I have been a closet doomer in the past, I'm not entirely convinced everyone is still struggling just to stay alive...
Ditto. (Except that I never was a closet doomer.) See Home | The Rational Optimist
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