Arizona passes strict illegal immigration bill...Part II (Phoenix: city hall, house)

[AZDesertBrat]

Originally Posted by Gandalara

Did you correct them in the comments section (if there was one)?

I emailed a local TV station (kinda-sorta lost my temper) because one of their morning news-readers (they're not journalists!) called the AZ bill, "the anti-immigrant bill".

I wasn't the only one - because the next day they called it the "anti-illegal bill" - they said they had received several emails and phone calls

Good for you! Too many people don't do anything about it and just gripe.

Some might call it semantics but wording means a lot. It makes us sound like we are against ALL immigration. They conveniently leave out the word "illegal" but I've commented on that before. It aggravates me to no end!

[funkykatt]

Originally Posted by mosesmoses

I think, instead of deporting the illegal aliens, Arizona should keep them. Put them on giant prison farms, and they could grow all kinds of organic vegetables, chickens , eggs, and manufacturing. And Arizona could sell all the cheap goods around the World, and build up a booming economy for Arizona. I think this could be done with the help of Obama, in a way that would be good good for the illegal aliens, and Mexico, and Arizona and the USA.

What, make them work? The ACLU would NEVER allow that!

[tiberius]

... "Could you step out of the car please ... We have a report this vehicle's been stolen."

... "Que?" ... "No hablo Ingles"

... "Well, there's 12 of you in the car .. does ANYONE speak Ingles .. I mean English?"

... "Si .. I speak a little Ingles."

... " Could you ask everyone to please step out of the car and line up behind the vehicle."

... "Si"

( the passengers exit the vehicle )



"May I see the driver's license and registration"

... "He says he doesn't have his license with him, and he has no registration"

... "Does the car belong to HIM?"

... "Si .. ahora."

... "Que? ... I mean, what?"

... "He says it does now. He just got it."

... "Well, this vehicle has been reported stolen .. I need to see his ID and proof of legal ownership."

... "All he has is a mexican ID"

... "What about legal ownership?"

... "He is unable to prove that."

( "psst ... que? ... psst psst psst ... oh, muy bueno, juan." )

... "One of my friends points out that the car has not been stolen, the driver's possession merely lacks legal status.. And lack of legal status is not a crime in america."

... "What is he .. a lawyer?"

( "es abogado? .. carrumba!!")

... "Si, he is." ... "I was unaware of this .. we joined up with him as we were crossing the ..... uh ...... street. ... si, the street."

... "This is all starting to sound pretty suspicious. .. I'm gonna have to see everyone's ID."



( psst psst psst psst !! ... psst? ...... si, verdad !!)

... "My lawyer friend wants to know of what you are suspicious.. Could you be thinking that we are all like the car .. lacking legal status? .. Are you attempting to establish our legal status?"

... "NO ... WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR LEGAL STATUS ... NOT ME"

( psst psst psst ...... muy bueno, amigo .. hehe )

... "My lawyer friend says he is feeling quite profiled at the moment."

( psst pssst psssst psst psst psst ...... psst .. no, gracias pablo, pero no pienso que es necesario." )

... "In fact, we are ALL feeling very profiled.. My amigo Pablo is quite upset.. He was offering ... wrong word ... I mean he was close to crying .. I think he is trying to obtain the services of our lawyer friend."

... "Hey .. No need for lawyers here.. Nobody's being profiled.. or even suspected of anything.. Heck, 12 people in an undocumented car with no ID's and only one of them able to speak English .. sorry, I mean Ingles .. don't seem AT ALL suspicious to me.. Heck, I was about to tell you all to go ahead and leave."

... "A wise decision, my friend."

( psst psst psst )

... "And don't let this happen again."

... "Oh, believe me .. it won't. Heck, I won't stop ANY hispanics, for ANYTHING."



... "HUH? ... OH MY GOD ... I DIDN'T MEAN HISPANIC .. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEANT .. BUT IT WASN'T HISPANIC !!!" ..... " I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE YOU WERE HISPANIC ... ARE YOU ??? "

... " I think it would be best if we left now.. Before you get yourself into more trouble.. I'd hate to see you lose your job over one foolish mistake."

... " Oh, THANK YOU ... In fact, first thing in the morning, I think I'm gonna put in for retirement.. This job is getting way too stressful.."

... " I think that is a good idea for you.. You DO seem quite stressed..
If you don't mind me mentioning .. I hear mexico is a good place to retire .. Things are cheap, and its not very crowded these days.. I can give you the address where I myself used to live.. I know there's an empty apartment there."


tiberius

[funkykatt]

Five years ago, my friend was rear-ended in a parking lot in Roseville, CA by illegals. They stopped and laughed at her when she asked for their insurance and license. She called the police, who came out and told her there was nothing they could do, hopefully she had uninsured motorist. He couldn't arrest them even though they were in the country illegally because they, the police, had been instructed not do so.

Of course this was five years ago when apparently it was ok for illegals to destroy your property with no repercussions but doubtfully nothing has changed.

We had a governor named Grey Davis, who was often called 'Red' Davis who wanted to issue driver's licenses for illegals because as he explained the 'undocumented immigrants' would be happy to pay for registration and buy insurance.

Now why would they want to do that if they can cause an accident and walk away from it guilt free?

Stupid CA politicians.

[tamiznluv]

Originally Posted by tiberius

... "Could you step out of the car please ... We have a report this vehicle's been stolen."

... "Que?" ... "No hablo Ingles"

... "Well, there's 12 of you in the car .. does ANYONE speak Ingles .. I mean English?"

... "Si .. I speak a little Ingles."

... " Could you ask everyone to please step out of the car and line up behind the vehicle."

... "Si"

( the passengers exit the vehicle )



"May I see the driver's license and registration"

... "He says he doesn't have his license with him, and he has no registration"

... "Does the car belong to HIM?"

... "Si .. ahora."

... "Que? ... I mean, what?"

... "He says it does now. He just got it."

... "Well, this vehicle has been reported stolen .. I need to see his ID and proof of legal ownership."

... "All he has is a mexican ID"

... "What about legal ownership?"

... "He is unable to prove that."

( "psst ... que? ... psst psst psst ... oh, muy bueno, juan." )

... "One of my friends points out that the car has not been stolen, the driver's possession merely lacks legal status.. And lack of legal status is not a crime in america."

... "What is he .. a lawyer?"

( "es abogado? .. carrumba!!")

... "Si, he is." ... "I was unaware of this .. we joined up with him as we were crossing the ..... uh ...... street. ... si, the street."

... "This is all starting to sound pretty suspicious. .. I'm gonna have to see everyone's ID."



( psst psst psst psst !! ... psst? ...... si, verdad !!)

... "My lawyer friend wants to know of what you are suspicious.. Could you be thinking that we are all like the car .. lacking legal status? .. Are you attempting to establish our legal status?"

... "NO ... WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR LEGAL STATUS ... NOT ME"

( psst psst psst ...... muy bueno, amigo .. hehe )

... "My lawyer friend says he is feeling quite profiled at the moment."

( psst pssst psssst psst psst psst ...... psst .. no, gracias pablo, pero no pienso que es necesario." )

... "In fact, we are ALL feeling very profiled.. My amigo Pablo is quite upset.. He was offering ... wrong word ... I mean he was close to crying .. I think he is trying to obtain the services of our lawyer friend."

... "Hey .. No need for lawyers here.. Nobody's being profiled.. or even suspected of anything.. Heck, 12 people in an undocumented car with no ID's and only one of them able to speak English .. sorry, I mean Ingles .. don't seem AT ALL suspicious to me.. Heck, I was about to tell you all to go ahead and leave."

... "A wise decision, my friend."

( psst psst psst )

... "And don't let this happen again."

... "Oh, believe me .. it won't. Heck, I won't stop ANY hispanics, for ANYTHING."



... "HUH? ... OH MY GOD ... I DIDN'T MEAN HISPANIC .. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEANT .. BUT IT WASN'T HISPANIC !!!" ..... " I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE YOU WERE HISPANIC ... ARE YOU ??? "

... " I think it would be best if we left now.. Before you get yourself into more trouble.. I'd hate to see you lose your job over one foolish mistake."

... " Oh, THANK YOU ... In fact, first thing in the morning, I think I'm gonna put in for retirement.. This job is getting way too stressful.."

... " I think that is a good idea for you.. You DO seem quite stressed..
If you don't mind me mentioning .. I hear mexico is a good place to retire .. Things are cheap, and its not very crowded these days.. I can give you the address where I myself used to live.. I know there's an empty apartment there."


tiberius

Originally Posted by funkykatt

Five years ago, my friend was rear-ended in a parking lot in Roseville, CA by illegals. They stopped and laughed at her when she asked for their insurance and license. She called the police, who came out and told her there was nothing they could do, hopefully she had uninsured motorist. He couldn't arrest them even though they were in the country illegally because they, the police, had been instructed not do so.

Of course this was five years ago when apparently it was ok for illegals to destroy your property with no repercussions but doubtfully nothing has changed.

We had a governor named Grey Davis, who was often called 'Red' Davis who wanted to issue driver's licenses for illegals because as he explained the 'undocumented immigrants' would be happy to pay for registration and buy insurance.

Now why would they want to do that if they can cause an accident and walk away from it guilt free?

Stupid CA politicians.

OMG, that is so wrong on so many levels. I'm just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by tamiznluv

OMG, that is so wrong on so many levels. I'm just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief.

Believe it! It happened in California, after all.

[tiberius]

I've seen on tv (like on "60 minutes") .. where a big thing with illegals is to get several of them in a car and pull in front of another car and slam on their brakes, causing the other car to run into them.. They are put up to it by crooked lawyers, but they know what they're doing and are very willing participants.. The lawyer then sends them to "his" doctor and they are all found to have neck or back injuries ... and the lawyer sues the insurance company.. Even though they are illegal, the law says that has nothing to do with them being wrongfully injured.. And its been driving everyone elses insurance up..

And before anyone says that OTHER people do it too ... I KNOW they do .. but its apparentally a big enough thing with hispanic illegals to have "60 Minutes" and other shows do programs on it.

tiberius

[tamiznluv]

Originally Posted by tiberius

I've seen on tv (like on "60 minutes") .. where a big thing with illegals is to get several of them in a car and pull in front of another car and slam on their brakes, causing the other car to run into them.. They are put up to it by crooked lawyers, but they know what they're doing and are very willing participants.. The lawyer then sends them to "his" doctor and they are all found to have neck or back injuries ... and the lawyer sues the insurance company.. Even though they are illegal, the law says that has nothing to do with them being wrongfully injured.. And its been driving everyone elses insurance up..

And before anyone says that OTHER people do it too ... I KNOW they do .. but its apparentally a big enough thing with hispanic illegals to have "60 Minutes" and other shows do programs on it.

tiberius

Oh yes, that has been going on for years around here, tiberius! Mod Cut.. (around here) Gawwd, the "average Joe Schmo" doesn't stand much of a chance anymore with all that goes on around them on a daily basis. "Wrong place, wrong time" could happen to anyone of us at any second of the day! No offense to a "good" lawyer but those snakes should be put in jail along with his/her "amigos". (did I spell that right?) [I have no intention of learning Spanish although I'd love to understand secretly what they are saying! ]

[altus2006]

No other country on the planet allows illegals to obtain "squatters rights" so that they can lay claim to their "rights" and obtain citizenship just because they made it across the border.

The sanest thing I have heard about the immigration policy of Arizona is when Governor Brewer said, "Go home and take your kids with you."

The front page of the online AZ paper has a story about illegals holding prayers for reform (amnesty) and to let them stay here. I have no more pity or empathy for these illegals. If they are worried about breaking up their families, then they should stop having kids until they are citizens of the country where they want to live permanently.

I have never felt that a policeman, employer, school, hospital, etc was out to get me when they asked for my drivers license or other identifying paper work. This whole "racial profiling" garbage is enough already. If you are against amnesty for all, then start making a noise now because it will be the next big push by this administration.

All US citizens have had a lot of their "rights" taken away by several decades of abuse by Congress and Presidents. The fact that policemen can ask possible illegals for identification pales in comparison to what each of us have lost with our "rights'.


altus2006

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by funkykatt

What, make them work? The ACLU would NEVER allow that!

The ones that would really raise a stink would be the labor unions.