Arizona again among Most Dependent States on Federal Government Subsidies (Parks: schools, university)

[Potential_Landlord]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

But boot straps and hard work??

Nah, that's not the Arizona way. We let our compatriots in other states do the hard work and just live off of their tax dollars. But then again that never stopped us from complaining about panhandlers and advising THEM to work.

[Potential_Landlord]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

The argument in the title post is flawed in part because all states with smaller populations and/or a larger portion of land area in Federal ownership, or under Federal management; it's not the only factor, but it's one the "blue state" crowd would rather not address.

So we are unable to sustain ourselves because of federal lands in Arizona??? That sounds like a pretty lame excuse.

[Potential_Landlord]

Originally Posted by PhxBarb

A dumb article. Federal taxpayers in other states are not subsidizing AZ. And we are not dependent on anyone. AZ uses the system as it should. I call that smart.

I know. I only understand maths when it complies with my world-view too.

[dvxhd]

Originally Posted by azsportpilot

Problem #2 - there are over 1,000,000 illegal aliens residing in AZ (yes, they qualify for welfare) have worsened the problem

Problem #3 - Phoenix (unlike most large cities) have very low wages (possibly due to the large population of "undocumented workers")

Too bad you didn't research that further. There are nowhere near that many illegal immigrants living in this state (likely in the 300,000 range). As works with conservatives, exaggerating to exacerbate people's fears gets others to agree with you... and responses to you didn't seem to yield any research on their ends either. Likewise, if any of you people could bother to research this yourself, you'd also see that them qualifying for welfare is, indeed, a myth. I can't imagine why conservative leaders would want to pander to your irrational fears when there's no clear gain for them to do so

Phoenix also has a mostly niche economy with a limited focus, a by and large uneducated population, and poor leadership, which have more or less kept companies from bringing higher paying jobs here. Furthermore, it didn't really nurture sectors (much like Silicon Valley did to blossom tech). Many California cities have much higher incomes than Phoenix, yet that state overall has far more immigrants (legal and not). I just had to point that out, because logic doesn't exactly seem to suit you.

[GeneR]

Originally Posted by azsportpilot

Problem #1 - Over 25% of AZ land is made up of indian reservations, 38% of the nations indian population reside in AZ, these reservations are heavily subsidized by the US gov't

A good point here. Actually, this is a good example of socialism in the U.S.. Bernie Sanders supporters take note, this is his philosophy at work.

[ftbowie]

Originally Posted by GeneR

A good point here. Actually, this is a good example of socialism in the U.S.. Bernie Sanders supporters take note, this is his philosophy at work.

True...The libs are gonna vote for Bernie the socialist and yet they denigrate big government in AZ....wahhhh...

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by ajonesaz

Business Journal should be ashamed of themselves for posting a news story without the facts.

Business Journal did not start this thread.

Again, I should point out. . . .

[ajonesaz]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

Business Journal did not start this thread.

Again, I should point out. . . .

Did I say that??
They wrote the article and posted it on their site and they are therefore responsible for its content.

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by ajonesaz

Did I say that??
They wrote the article and posted it on their site and they are therefore responsible for its content.

You obviously missed my point. We would have been happily ignorant of that silly article if the person who started this thread did not start it. Said person starts and posts many threads bashing Arizona using articles with about the same worth as the one here. This is not the first one by said person with the same subject either, but it's been long enough so I cannot find it now.

[atlaw]

idjit!