McCain had the spotlight on AZ in a good way, for a change (to buy, living)

[Camo_Butterfly]

Originally Posted by thinkalot

Do you mean like most of us? Most people are liberal in some areas and conservative in others. We also change our views as we grow older. We experience more things and meet different types of people.

No.
What I meant by the comment is that McCain was wishy-washy and often didn't stick to any principles or values but did whatever was politically convenient. That's probably why he was ranked the third most unpopular senator in America.

https://morningconsult.com/2018/04/1...ular-senators/


Also, McCain was a part of the deep-state swamp that needed to be drained

[fluffythewondercat]

Originally Posted by LBTRS

This week long mourning period with four services and another tomorrow is ridiculous. I wonder how much the taxpayers are on the hook for this nonsense? I read that he planned this all himself...if so I think less of him than I already did. While I respect his military service, the rest of his career he was addicted to the unfortunate power and money that comes with being a public servant.

All this pomp and circumstance for a non head of state is way over the top. He should have planned a memorial in Arizona and then been buried wherever he wanted just like the rest of us. Dragging this on and his not inviting the President and Sarah Palin, regardless of their background, shows the true person he was.

Good riddance.

I think the country dodged a bullet when he lost the election. Can you imagine what kind of First Family the McCains would have been?

[Potential_Landlord]

If the speakers and audience at my funeral turn my dead corpse to a hate fest for the president or any other person, then don't give me a funeral at all.

[LBTRS]

Originally Posted by Potential_Landlord

If the speakers and audience at my funeral turn my dead corpse to a hate fest for the president or any other person, then don't give me a funeral at all.

John McCain laid the ground work for that very thing by not inviting the President. Your funeral should not be the time to settle political scores.

Prior to this week I simply didn't agree with McCain's politics. After this week I see what an egotistical and shallow person he was. He used his death to get one more jab at his political enemies and it cost the taxpayers a ton of money. This shows that he put himself above the people he said he served.

I feel this week was not a positive at all for McCain or Arizona as this thread suggests. I for one am glad he no longer represents Arizona.

[Potential_Landlord]

Originally Posted by LBTRS

John McCain laid the ground work for that very thing by not inviting the President. Your funeral should not be the time to settle political scores.

Prior to this week I simply didn't agree with McCain's politics. After this week I see what an egotistical and shallow person he was. He used his death to get one more jab at his political enemies and it cost the taxpayers a ton of money. This shows that he put himself above the people he said he served.

I feel this week was not a positive at all for McCain or Arizona as this thread suggests. I for one am glad he no longer represents Arizona.

In any case this completes the president's control over the GOP members of congress. Gov. Ducey will select a Trump acolyte and the other never-Trumpers are retiring and also being replaced by forever-Trumpers. Trump's endorsement is now a must-have for any GOP candidate. In two cases this primary season the president's endorsements overrode a 20%+ poll disadvantage.This is reminiscent of FDR's sway over the Democratic party in the 1930s.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by LBTRS

This week long mourning period with four services and another tomorrow is ridiculous. I wonder how much the taxpayers are on the hook for this nonsense? I read that he planned this all himself...if so I think less of him than I already did. While I respect his military service, the rest of his career he was addicted to the unfortunate power and money that comes with being a public servant.

I wondered also why so much attention was given to McCain compared to other national figures, and my guess is that he was a sitting Senator when he died, which is a rarity. When Goldwater died in 1998, he didn't get anywhere near the attention that McCain has gotten, but he had already retired about 12 years earlier. The way this is being carried out so long does seem to be overdone, but I still respected the man regardless.

As for how much taxpayer money has gone to all the services: it's a good question, and I doubt if it has been entirely calculated. But considering how much taxpayers already spend on health care ($1+ trillion), all the federal welfare programs ($600+ billion), defense ($500+ billion), and other expenses like education ($60 billion each), I'd be willing to bet the cost of McCain's services amount to a fraction so tiny that it doesn't even register on the radar.

[Potential_Landlord]

Originally Posted by LBTRS

John McCain laid the ground work for that very thing by not inviting the President. Your funeral should not be the time to settle political scores.

Prior to this week I simply didn't agree with McCain's politics. After this week I see what an egotistical and shallow person he was. He used his death to get one more jab at his political enemies and it cost the taxpayers a ton of money. This shows that he put himself above the people he said he served.

I feel this week was not a positive at all for McCain or Arizona as this thread suggests. I for one am glad he no longer represents Arizona.

I think what McCain wanted by excluding the President is to not have Trump overshadow his own funeral. Boy, they disrespected that final wish. The fake media, his friends and even his own family utterly disrespected his final wish. Instead, his funeral became another media Trump circus like they make up out of everything. However, them abusing a funeral and disrespecting the Senators own final wish for this is a new low. Hard to imagine, but they lowered their standards even more just to get cheap shots at the president. They truly stop at nothing fake.

[DetroitN8V]

This thread has become an alt-right echo chamber (with nearly unintelligible grammar).

[Voebe]

Originally Posted by Tall Traveler

He seemed to me not very intelligent and volatile and was so small minded he blamed his defeat on his VP choice, not a fan and never was. At the end, he gave a big F you to the people that made his a life of power and wealth...so in conclusion, I have the opposite view.

Do you have any actual evidence - for instance, in interviews with him, or anything he wrote - where he blamed Sarah Palin? My impression is that he never did, except in private, and even then, not necessarily that he blamed her, but that he regretted the choice.

And I rather doubt that the problem was any lack of intelligence with his choice, but rather that he might have overly trusted aides - which happens to all politicians.

I was never a fan, either, but I'm fine in admitting that I began to warm slightly to him a few years ago, and I was also impressed by things more recently.

[LBTRS]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

This thread has become an alt-right echo chamber (with nearly unintelligible grammar).

You really need to quit with the grammar police comments in every thread. It lessens anything you have to say.

It is very poor form in a discussion forum and is worse than anyone's grammar mistakes.