Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-19-2020, 02:48 PM
 
1,355 posts, read 1,945,215 times
Reputation: 904
Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtAZ View Post
Ah...I see now...looked like the Hopi and Navajo Nation extended south of there but...just the coloring of the map.

Anyway...good luck with your Shangri-La...I mean...look what McCulloch did with Lake Havasu City. I mean...there is no lake or running natural water in Holbrook and it is quite a ways from CA with only the Petrified Forest as a natural tourist attraction, but hey, could happen.
Holbrook, AZ is more a "Land of Enchantment" area with beautiful sunsets similar to New Mexico. It can also be the new Santa Fe, NM as well. At elevation of only 5,082 ft., it helps a lot to block out extreme heat with pressure winds to blow through, but still be tiny-bit warmer and less-snow than Albuquerque, NM that is only 250 ft. higher (not much difference).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holbrook,_Arizona

Navajo & Hopi Indian Reservations also have one of the highest birth rates per capita in this whole country. When the kids grow up, they can look forward to Holbrook, AZ as the new economically engine city (replacing Farmington, NM due to poor location), while keeping the diverse and progressive movement too.

(All just early talk right now...)

Last edited by waltchan; 08-19-2020 at 03:00 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
24,462 posts, read 25,995,249 times
Reputation: 59833
Quote:
Originally Posted by waltchan View Post
It's actually outside of Hopi Reservation borders, and no one owns the Holbrook undeveloped land except the Arizona state government. The beltway freeway can reach up north with new homes to Hopi Reservation southern border max.
Ahh, but the Hopi reservation is inside the borders of the Navajo reservation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
2,925 posts, read 3,091,864 times
Reputation: 4457
Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtAZ View Post
You also seem to be missing the fact that Holbrook is sitting well inside the borders of the Hopi Reservation.<snip>
Um, no. It is not.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...4d-110.5034673
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
2,925 posts, read 3,091,864 times
Reputation: 4457
OP is making a lot of good points to continue moving forward with the Sitgreaves County project.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:48 PM
 
1,355 posts, read 1,945,215 times
Reputation: 904
Quote:
Originally Posted by teddyearp View Post
Correct. Holbrook sits in between Hopi/Navajo Reservation and Ford Apache Reservation outside borders. There's a reason why Interstate 40 goes southeast a little from Flagstaff to Holbrook at the end (to ensure the warmest weather with land around to build), before it goes northeast to Gallup, NM (not an interesting city to live in, since it's colder with 6,500 ft. elevation).

Last edited by waltchan; 08-19-2020 at 04:20 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:52 PM
 
1,355 posts, read 1,945,215 times
Reputation: 904
Quote:
Originally Posted by teddyearp View Post
OP is making a lot of good points to continue moving forward with the Sitgreaves County project.
That's right... Something big and great is coming, if it moves forward being a separate county.

https://www.wmicentral.com/news/late...1e3001f0c.html

Residents want to propose Show Low, AZ as the new county seat, but I will try to oppose it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 03:59 PM
 
1,355 posts, read 1,945,215 times
Reputation: 904
Quote:
Originally Posted by teddyearp View Post
If you zoom out the map a little, the enlarged border is part of the Navajo Nation Reservation, which actually starts at directly above Petrified Forest. Anything below is available to the public for development. Holbrook is at least 20 miles down south of Navajo Nation.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ho...4d-110.5034673
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
4,069 posts, read 5,144,428 times
Reputation: 6161
Quote:
Originally Posted by teddyearp View Post
Yeah I know...I was wrong and said so in a previous post.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
4,069 posts, read 5,144,428 times
Reputation: 6161
Quote:
Originally Posted by waltchan View Post
Holbrook, AZ is more a "Land of Enchantment" area with beautiful sunsets similar to New Mexico. It can also be the new Santa Fe, NM as well. At elevation of only 5,082 ft., it helps a lot to block out extreme heat with pressure winds to blow through, but still be tiny-bit warmer and less-snow than Albuquerque, NM that is only 250 ft. higher (not much difference).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holbrook,_Arizona

Navajo & Hopi Indian Reservations also have one of the highest birth rates per capita in this whole country. When the kids grow up, they can look forward to Holbrook, AZ as the new economically engine city (replacing Farmington, NM due to poor location), while keeping the diverse and progressive movement too.

(All just early talk right now...)
Only problem with replacing Farmington is that pesky lack of an oil industry in Holbrook. Maybe you can subdivide into ranchettes...like 40 acre plots and advertise that to get it going. Ya know...40 acres of wide open space in Northern Arizona! The next Santa Fe! I am sure that will drum up some business.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-19-2020, 05:09 PM
 
1,355 posts, read 1,945,215 times
Reputation: 904
Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtAZ View Post
Only problem with replacing Farmington is that pesky lack of an oil industry in Holbrook. Maybe you can subdivide into ranchettes...like 40 acre plots and advertise that to get it going. Ya know...40 acres of wide open space in Northern Arizona! The next Santa Fe! I am sure that will drum up some business.
I see no future with the oil business. As presidential elections are becoming more divided, intense, and demanding, we are required to build clean-powered energy sources away from fossil fuels in the near future. Due to enormous amount of open land space outside Holbrook, AZ, developers can build hundreds of thousand of new solar panels to power and store energy into generators for many people around this region, reaching up north to Flagstaff, AZ max. (Sorry, there's not enough land space to build in Flagstaff anymore, if someone is curious and questioning about this thread.)

Right on with the ranchettes... I don't plan to be the first mayor of the new Holbrook big city, but I'm just a founding father of the pre-development process to attract new developers and businesses. I work for the music entertainment industry, so most likely I will stick to operating Burning Man recreations, concert venues, hotel/bar resorts, and artist creation neighborhood copying Santa Fe, NM. Or, Arizona's version of Austin, TX.

Last edited by waltchan; 08-19-2020 at 05:24 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top