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Old 11-18-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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It seems easier to blame Californians than awful, polarizing, divisive candidates. McSally never had a shot and Trump wasn’t even the country’s favorite in 2016.
You nailed it. Finally, this state has shown that we have some political common sense.

 
Old 11-18-2020, 05:37 PM
 
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Arizona is over. The Central American immigrants who have been flooding into the state for the past 3 decades want totalitarian socialist rule. It’s not the Californians changing the politics, the Californians retiring in AZ largely vote conservative. At the state level the republicans should be able to hold the senate for the foreseeable future but in federal elections and probably gubernatorial elections it’s pretty much over.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 05:53 PM
 
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Arizona is over. The Central American immigrants who have been flooding into the state for the past 3 decades want totalitarian socialist rule. It’s not the Californians changing the politics, the Californians retiring in AZ largely vote conservative. At the state level the republicans should be able to hold the senate for the foreseeable future but in federal elections and probably gubernatorial elections it’s pretty much over.
Thank Goodness! Couldn’t be happier. Been waiting my whole life to turn this state blue. Hallelujah.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 08:47 PM
 
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Arizona is over. The Central American immigrants who have been flooding into the state for the past 3 decades want totalitarian socialist rule. It’s not the Californians changing the politics, the Californians retiring in AZ largely vote conservative. At the state level the republicans should be able to hold the senate for the foreseeable future but in federal elections and probably gubernatorial elections it’s pretty much over.
Thanks, Guatemalans! LOL!
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:07 PM
 
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I guess I would view successful child rearing as raising children to be polite, empathetic, to think for themselves, and to work hard.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:08 PM
 
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We voted for calm, decency, diplomacy, health and unity. It’s time to drop the fear-mongering already.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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Thanks, Guatemalans! LOL!
Indeed. We owe them some gift packages. Lol
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:16 PM
 
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Wow...some Democrats and left-wingers are on here actually acknowledging that their advocacy for unskilled and poor immigration is just out of a desire to build a left-wing coalition. It never was about helping anyone. It was always about winning Democrats elections. Unfortunately for them, people of color often wake up to the shenanigans themselves once they accomplish something and refuse to be pawns.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:32 PM
 
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Wow...some Democrats and left-wingers are on here actually acknowledging that their advocacy for unskilled and poor immigration is just out of a desire to build a left-wing coalition. It never was about helping anyone. It was always about winning Democrats elections. Unfortunately for them, people of color often wake up to the shenanigans themselves once they accomplish something and refuse to be pawns.
Where did anyone say anything of the sort? We have a real problem in this country where people seem to think they can repeat anything and it then has credence. Don’t let facts get in the way of some good fear-mongering.
 
Old 11-18-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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I'll add more to this: liberals tend to have an entitlement attitude & believe people deserve handouts from the government for personal choices they made.
* Financial hardship due to low income, and/or spending money frivolously? Solution: impose more taxes on corporations & the wealthy.
* Can't afford to have children, but procreated anyway? Solution: give them special tax credits, and make everybody else pay for free public schools. etc.
* Poor people from third world nations coming to America illegally? Solution: welcome them with open arms, give them amnesty, public assistance, DLs, etc.
* A certain segment of the population doesn't have sufficient health insurance? Solution: force the government to enact costly socialized statutes because health care is a "right".

Many of today's liberals have become more authoritarian, which is completely opposite from the traditional definition of "liberal". Their solution to controlling the COVID virus: force businesses to close, impose mandatory lockdowns & mask ordinances. Their solution to police brutality: dismantle police departments and enact more social justice mandates. Their solution to racism: support movements like BLM, and blame it on "white privilege".



Do you know what primarily caused the Great Depression? People thinking they could get rich quick by putting money which they didn't have into the stock market ... also known as "margin", which is one of the riskiest (and most stupid) ways to invest. They ended up losing everything, and the banks failed because of the dwindled supply of money. Here again, it's another form of the entitlement mentality I'm referring to where people think they can get something for nothing. Something similar happened in the 2000s with the real estate market. People obtained ARM type of loans which they weren't qualified for in the first place, but they felt entitled to buy new homes, new SUVs, new laptops, new big screen TVs with borrowed money which they couldn't begin to pay back.
That's not remotely close to reality. The Fed tightened the supply of money during the great depression which lead to a deflationary environment in which banks were terrified to lend. That is why the Federal Reserve has always been more dovish as opposed to the Bundesbank, which was burned by inflation as opposed to the experience in the USA.

Nothing similar to that happened in the late 2000s. When American banks decided to lend to anyone with a pulse, repayment expectations took a dump and every credit holder wanted their money immediately. The Federal Reserve, with the experience of hindsight, decided that the smart move was to transform bonds into the liquidity that the market desired, cash.

There is a heck of a lot more to the story, but those are the basics.
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