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So how to tell apart Dai-Thai who is majority of Northern and Upper-Eastern area of Thailand from Chinese-Thai who are majority of Center area Thailand? Both group look quite similar to me.
Dai-Thai physical are pale skin and having small single eyelid which could be considered as East Asian race(Japanese/Chinese/Korean) rather than Southeast Asian race(Cambodian/Filipino/Indonesian/Malaysian) that have brown skin and big double eyelid.
On another hand people in Deep-Southern Thailand and South-Eastern Thailand look more like Southeast Asian race.
I believe that most of the modern population mixture in modern South Asia can be traced back to China's population explosion which caused many waves of immigration into the region over the last 1000 years or so, most noticeably in the last 500. From 1500 to 1910 some estimates show China's population quadrupled from 100 million to over 400 million. And from 1910 to today the population tripled to over a billion.
So how to tell apart Dai-Thai who is majority of Northern and Upper-Eastern area of Thailand from Chinese-Thai who are majority of Center area Thailand? Both group look quite similar to me.
Dai-Thai physical are pale skin and having small single eyelid which could be considered as East Asian race(Japanese/Chinese/Korean) rather than Southeast Asian race(Cambodian/Filipino/Indonesian/Malaysian) that have brown skin and big double eyelid.
On another hand people in Deep-Southern Thailand and South-Eastern Thailand look more like Southeast Asian race.
Well the Dai came from Yunnan province, China, so naturally have affinities to later Han immigrants, but there are pre-Dai tribes already living in Thailand including the central Chao Phraya river valley floodplain area. I'd say the 'sea gypsies' of Phuket are kind of like how the natives prior to the Dai (who arrived around 1200) looked.
I believe that most of the modern population mixture in modern South Asia can be traced back to China's population explosion which caused many waves of immigration into the region over the last 1000 years or so, most noticeably in the last 500. From 1500 to 1910 some estimates show China's population quadrupled from 100 million to over 400 million.
Stop using 'South Asia' for Southeast Asia...in a way it is technically correct, but South Asia is understand to mean the Indian subcontinent so it's confusing.
Stop using 'South Asia' for Southeast Asia...in a way it is technically correct, but South Asia is understand to mean the Indian subcontinent so it's confusing.
Geographically it is all South Asia to me. And to the point, the only reason India hasn't had the same population history as South East Asia is due to India having its own population boom. But other than that all Southern parts of Asia share the same characteristic as being tropical regions with populations adapted to those conditions. The only other place to see the original diversity of South East Asia is in parts of the Pacific: Guam, Marshall Islands, Yap, Micronesia, etc.
I believe that most of the modern population mixture in modern South Asia can be traced back to China's population explosion which caused many waves of immigration into the region over the last 1000 years or so, most noticeably in the last 500. From 1500 to 1910 some estimates show China's population quadrupled from 100 million to over 400 million. And from 1910 to today the population tripled to over a billion.
Those people are more likely to descent from Mon-Khmer ethnic(Khmer/Vietnamese/Wa/Kuy) who were aboriginal(not negritos) that used to live in what is called Thailand/Laos today before the Dai people(the ethnic majority of Laos and Thailand today) migrate from Yunnan,China into Laos and Thailand and repopulated the area in 13th century.
The term "Siamese" is represent to the people whom live in Center Thailand and Southern Thailand during 13-17 century. "Siamese" generally were ethnically hybrid of Dai(pure Thai/Lao) whom were from Yunnan,China and Mon-Khmer people(Khmer/Vietnamese/Wa/Kuy) whom were original people of the area.
By the way, the area of Center Thailand today was repopulated again Han-Chinese immigrants who sail from middle China(Fujian, China)during 17-20 century and end up landed mostly in Center Thailand as well as some in Southern Thailand. Center Thailand today has Han-Chinese as majority ethnic which made up around 80% of the area population.
Genetically, people in Thailand and Laos could be diverse. But in lesser degree when compare to other country in Southeast Asia.
Based on the genetic graph, 60% of Thai samples are grouping around Southern Chinese sample, another 20% are grouping with middle Chinese/Taiwanese-Han sample, and the last 20% seem to be spreading around randomly(but more toward Southern population like Indonesian/Filipino/Malaysian).
So people in the pictures you posted, seem to be someone who are the owner of those 20% of the sample that bend toward Southern population.
Last edited by Ezio_Auditore; 04-05-2014 at 09:42 AM..
Even the Tai peoples who live in China (Yunnan and Guizhou specifically) look typical Southeast Asian. Quite frankly, Thai and Lao people don't look too different from the ones pictured below despite living further south in Indochina.
Clearly very different from the Sino-Thai peoples you enjoying passing off as "pure" Dai/Tai so much. I understand why you would want to though because they are very attractive people. Still those people are very obviously mixed.
Well Thai and Lao people don't look much different to Southern Chinese either. I don't think most Khmers look as different as some seem to think either.
I'm not so fond of the idea that you can be so inclusive of Southern Chinese peoples; they look distinct and quite different from Southeast Asian peoples with the rare exception of people like Bolo Yeung perhaps but still.
Some people will say people like Fields Medalist Shing-Tung Yau looks Southeast-Asian but I think he and Bolo looks like a distinct type that only S. Chinese can actually be. http://www.myncca.org/yahoo_site_adm...0125_large.jpg
^ Well if you include Vietnamese than yes, many Vietnamese look like him. Khmer can have small eyes but the combo of small eyes/broad nose is usually found in Vietnam and Southern China. The eyes are a more northern trait and the nose a more southern trait. Typically, small eyes go with a smaller, narrower, sharper nose.
My sister is often mistaken for Filipino, Malay or even Polynesian, yet most of our ancestry is from Fujian province (going back before Singapore/Malaysia) aside from possibly a bit of Malay.
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