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Old 12-22-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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415-s2k. If this is all you have to contribute.

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Keep in mind that this is RT, which is a Russian propaganda paper. A lot of their statements are rubbish; "China is about to replace US as strongest naval power" lol.
Get out of my drill.

News in general is rubbish but portions of what is thrown out can be put to good use.
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Seeing as the Chinese themselves look down upon almost every non white person (ironically), that statement loses its value. There's a reason why the Chinese are viewed so poorly in most places, and it isn't just the government I'm talking about but the people themselves.
I have heard about Chinese attitudes and have seen some acts that don't ride well with me but when I look around me the things pointed out are not uncommon on the streets I walk everyday. There are good people and there are bad people. Chinese are no exception.

Depending on who you ask you get different answers.
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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I think that what the western world is missing is what lays behind what we're seeing. The infrastructure.

China is going to be on par with the US far sooner than we expect. 10 years. Equal and/or better.
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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415-s2k. If this is all you have to contribute.



Get out of my drill.

News in general is rubbish but portions of what is thrown out can be put to good use.
I'll post wherever I feel here, thanks. Again, I didn't insult you, I pointed out that you were sharing sensationalist hyperbole from a well-known propaganda outlet, and I did it in a fairly respectful way considering the level of stupidity in that article.

See my later post or one of the hundreds of others I've made here in regards to issues surrounding China, and curb your attitude.

Is China expanding its navy? Yes.
Can China eventually catch up to the US? Possibly, depending on the many vast, as-yet-unseen variables of the next decade or two of geopolitics and both nations' domestic issues.
Is US naval power about to be surpassed? No.
Is the state of the US Navy in decline or collapsing? Absolutely not.
Is the US' shipbuilding ability somehow at risk or failing? Where the hell does this even come from? Oh, wait, a Russian academic quoted in Russia Today
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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I think that what the western world is missing is what lays behind what we're seeing. The infrastructure.

China is going to be on par with the US far sooner than we expect. 10 years. Equal and/or better.
Beyond the high speed rail lines, skyscrapers, and subway systems, I see factories closing, buildings sitting vacant, a rural interior left largely behind by economic successes, a looming demographic crisis of age and gender, and regression on many policies that serve primarily to boost the ego of an elite few at the expense of decades of impressive economic growth. Boondoggle projects to keep people working and content which will merely kick the can further down the road without addressing the substantive problems China's facing.

The US will likely stagnate over the next 10 years because we can't pull together as a nation and would rather point fingers at other ideologies than work together for a common goal. Perhaps the US will begin to make some progress at some point but it won't be as drastic or impressive as what China's achieved in the last 20 years (because 20 years ago China was still a well-and-truly developing country and had much more room to expand). Whether China continues to progress, stagnates, or makes progress is fairly up in the air at this point. Indicators are not good, but it's early enough that perhaps Beijing could still act correctly to right the ship.
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Old 12-22-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Beyond the high speed rail lines, skyscrapers, and subway systems, I see factories closing, buildings sitting vacant, a rural interior left largely behind by economic successes, a looming demographic crisis of age and gender, and regression on many policies that serve primarily to boost the ego of an elite few at the expense of decades of impressive economic growth. Boondoggle projects to keep people working and content which will merely kick the can further down the road without addressing the substantive problems China's facing.

The US will likely stagnate over the next 10 years because we can't pull together as a nation and would rather point fingers at other ideologies than work together for a common goal. Perhaps the US will begin to make some progress at some point but it won't be as drastic or impressive as what China's achieved in the last 20 years (because 20 years ago China was still a well-and-truly developing country and had much more room to expand). Whether China continues to progress, stagnates, or makes progress is fairly up in the air at this point. Indicators are not good, but it's early enough that perhaps Beijing could still act correctly to right the ship.
Alright. I apologize for jumping down your throat. RT is what it is just as so many other "news" outlets. I use it as a source for leads to other things, particularly concerning Russia. Russia and China are the next big thing on the continent it seems.

If you have boots on the ground in China you certainly have a different/better perspective than we who are limited.

As for America I do know something about our shipbuilding industry and it is nowhere near what it used to be, the infrastructure and skilled people power just are not there anymore.
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