Xi Jiping signs military directive

[Ice_Major]

Originally Posted by TylerJAX

They'll eventually become rich and democratize slowly or the CCP will fail to deliver and lose the Mandate of Heaven.

They been making predictions about the country democratizing since the 80s. I don't doubt they can't, but it will not look like the liberal democracy we have in West. Likely to resemble something like Singapore. Basically de facto one-party rule in which the opposition party has no chance. The Chinese just have a different method of thinking and approach to most governmental and societal aspects. Which is okay. Just because a nation has a different political system, religion, or economic model doesn't mean they are threat. These ideological conflicts need to stop before they end up with the entire world getting blown to pieces.

[Milky Way Resident]

Originally Posted by Ice_Major

Economics is important; however, the CCP has also provided security and stability. Before the CCP the country experienced endless large-scale conflicts. Foreign powers invaded and took territory. They refer to it as the 100 years of humiliation. After the fall of the Qing dynasty the country fell into civil war on top of having to fight the Japanese. From the baby boomer generation to current one no Chinse citizen has experienced the horror of conflicts. A course America appears set on trying to change that. Got to spread that good ole freedom and democracy.

While there haven’t been many conflicts since 1950, it wouldn’t be accurate to say that many Chinese didn’t suffer as a result of the CCP. Take into consideration the Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward.

[Tomboy-]

Originally Posted by maomao

except that you're wrong in both parts about hong kong and taiwan.

I don't expect any of you to know how it is exactly, but I will do my best to give you the correct perspective

hong kong
the 99 year lease only applies to kowloon peninsula, the hong kong island was never a lease, it was forcefully taken. now, fast forward to end of ww2 and the formation of the united nation. there was a mandate by the UN that all unequal treaties would be repealed. So technically, if china was powerful enough, they could have confronted the british and take back hong kong in 1949 when the CCP controls all of the mainland.

that was not done for a multiple of reasons, but all in all, it's simply that china was not powerful enough to confront with the british until the late 1980's (when britain just won a war to keep the islands from argentina). but china feels that it's more powerful than argentina, and willing to risk going to war.

Deng famously said to Thatcher, "we will consider all timings and methods to take back hong kong"
and finally, both side signs a new agreement to return hong kong in 1997. So it was not the end of a 99 year lease, it was a new treaty that was signed in 1987 between china and britain


taiwan
contrary to popular belief, the CCP do not want to use force on taiwan, heck, they would rather move forces to threaten japan now a days. But the vast majority of the chinese people, is putting pressure on the CCP, to confront taiwan whenever there is some news that everyone knows happens.

99 years applied to the New Territories not including HK Island and Kowloon. The British gave up both Hong Kong Island and Kowloon because many people have moved to the New Territories with power plants, industrial areas and reservoirs built in the area. Having a controlled border between Kowloon and New Territories is not feasible.

It is the DPP which makes Beijing angry, not the blue parties of Taiwan.