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There's a tendency among some believers to hate us, and here is an example of why:
Nobody likes having their God referred to as a "lunatic."
Nor there mom or their sister.
But, they just have a lot of negativity in them, period...it's the bad service at the restaurant, the neighbor problem...the barking dogs...the bad TV programs...they are just 'haters and complainers'...as
far as I can see, Kara...oh, with control issues, let's not forget that psychological problem...isn't that medically termed a personality disorder?
It’s all about stereotypes - and an unwillingness to see people for individuals rather than as part of a large group (who, due to an association with a said group - surely must mean ‘they’ all think that way lol). In my opinion, all religious people do not think alike - anymore than all atheists or agnostics. When people from either ‘side’ approach with antagonistic emotions - or the attitude of ‘you are wrong, stupid,etc.’, it immediately shuts down my interest in what they have to say. I’m an agnostic, and I find I get more backlash from atheists than I do from religious folks.
It’s all about stereotypes - and an unwillingness to see people for individuals rather than as part of a large group (who, due to an association with a said group - surely must mean ‘they’ all think that way lol). In my opinion, all religious people do not think alike - anymore than all atheists or agnostics. When people from either ‘side’ approach with antagonistic emotions - or the attitude of ‘you are wrong, stupid,etc.’, it immediately shuts down my interest in what they have to say. I’m an agnostic, and I find I get more backlash from atheists than I do from religious folks.
I'm sorry to hear that as atheism has more in common with the agnostics than we might realise. The religious, understandably, might read "Agnostic" as a God -believer with some doubts.
I'm sorry to hear that as atheism has more in common with the agnostics than we might realise. The religious, understandably, might read "Agnostic" as a God -believer with some doubts.
I think most people understand an agnostic is not a Christian and is not religious - lol.
I think most people understand an agnostic is not a Christian and is not religious - lol.
Perhaps so, which is why I am dismayed that you have (as you say) been getting bad feedback from atheists; we should know that we are bretheren. And sisteren, of course.
Perhaps so, which is why I am dismayed that you have (as you say) been getting bad feedback from atheists; we should know that we are bretheren. And sisteren, of course.
Since ‘brethren’ is typically referred to as ‘fellow Christians or male members of a religious order’, it’s not the word I would use. And what I meant about receiving more negative comments from atheists than religious folks in re to my agnosticism, it’s in their refusal to accept my self-imposed label of agnostic (often implying I must believe in ‘God’ if I’m not an atheist).
Since ‘brethren’ is typically referred to as ‘fellow Christians or male members of a religious order’, it’s not the word I would use. And what I meant about receiving more negative comments from atheists than religious folks in re to my agnosticism, it’s in their refusal to accept my self-imposed label of agnostic (often implying I must believe in ‘God’ if I’m not an atheist).
Perhaps I'ml trying to hi -jack the feeling of fellowship in 'Brethren' in saying that atheists and agnotics are 'brethren'. Not because agnostics have a god belief (which many, in my experience, do) but because they have doubts and questions and are very often 'nones' - they do not do organised religion.
We may dicker about the semantics and terminology, but surely to try to clarify thoughts and agreed meanings. Not to get antagonistic with Agnostics. That's one thing we should not be doing.
Perhaps I'ml trying to hi -jack the feeling of fellowship in 'Brethren' in saying that atheists and agnotics are 'brethren'. Not because agnostics have a god belief (which many, in my experience, do) but because they have doubts and questions and are very often 'nones' - they do not do organised religion.
We may dicker about the semantics and terminology, but surely to try to clarify thoughts and agreed meanings. Not to get antagonistic with Agnostics. That's one thing we should not be doing.
Some agnostic, if not most, admit to not knowing whether or not there are any Gods and quite a few also admit to not caring one way or the other.
Agnostics do not have any need for there not to be any Gods or for the existence of any Gods. It's a neutral position. It's the zero on the integer scale.
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Perhaps I'ml trying to hi -jack the feeling of fellowship in 'Brethren' in saying that atheists and agnotics are 'brethren'. Not because agnostics have a god belief (which many, in my experience, do) but because they have doubts and questions and are very often 'nones' - they do not do organised religion.
