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Old 02-06-2021, 10:41 AM
 
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And rather helped to crack the stranglehold of the Vatican on Europe, thus leading to vatican -free religions in the new world and the Empire which (you- wall -forgive me) is slightly better than the hag -ridden religious autocracy which they the catholics are just beginning to fling off - including the Irish (post scandal - global and domestic), bless 'em

Unfortunately the Cold war and Mccarthyism led to religious nutterry and anti -communism becoming identified with Patriotism and is today why the US is unique amongst (I believe) 'advanced' nations as being still saddled with religion, which has also a common but more pronounced Right - wing bias.

We have seen here even people who can't believe in religion anymore still supporting it against secularism simply for political reasons.



Well, you must be, or your wouldn't be a Christian. Ow known as Godsuckers, but we are too polite to use the term.

Did I say I am a Christian?
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:44 AM
 
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So what? That's one man. Not all of society.

There is no such thing as one man, an individual. He is a type, one bot running on the atheist program of self-determination.
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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Well, I had in mind the Scandinavian countries and some of the former soviet bloc countries. Since you mentioned an ongoing Philippine prostitution problem generation to generation, suppose you compare it with them - or you can opt to say you know nothing of it and try to find some other argument to blame on atheism.

You are becoming increasingly absurd. Henry was as Christian after he broke with the pope as he was before. It was his anglican Christianity that led to the KJV and the American style of Christianity. Unless you are the kind of Catholic that regards protestants as atheists you are wildly off tangent with any kind of coherent argument.

The argument about atheist morals seems absurd, too as the laws are made by governments that are not atheist. Aren't we supposed to be a tiny percentage with little support? The truth is that ethical improvements in society and law were voted though by supposedly religious governments because they were better in human terms, and never mind what religions said.

So if atheists agree with that don't blame us. Atheists don't dictate secular law and ethics, what's best for humans as a whole does. Only religious extremists, it seems, opposing such social improvements.

From what you posted so far I'd guess that you are Right wing religious redhat, raving at the immoral and satanic laws passed to help people and afford them equal rights, whereas the Godly, Biblical way to do it would be to establish a theocratic dictatorship arresting and eliminating one perceived immoral and ungodly group after another.

Correct me if I'm wrong, as you may be a devout catholic who sees Henry 8 as a satanic rebel against God's own Vatican which presides over prostitution -free Catholic nations.

Then again you may be a POE atheist posting increasingly waff stuf just to make religion look bad, in which case, good job.
How does one who begins by demonstrating absolute absurdity become increasingly absurd?

"the prostitution situation which is a feature of permissive atheistic societies."

Absurd is putting it kindly...
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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There is no such thing as one man, an individual. He is a type, one bot running on the atheist program of self-determination.
Of course, there is. You are one such individual trying to sell us something...an anchor.
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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And rather helped to crack the stranglehold of the Vatican on Europe, thus leading to vatican -free religions in the new world and the Empire which (you- wall -forgive me) is slightly better than the hag -ridden religious autocracy which they the catholics are just beginning to fling off - including the Irish (post scandal - global and domestic), bless 'em

Unfortunately the Cold war and Mccarthyism led to religious nutterry and anti -communism becoming identified with Patriotism and is today why the US is unique amongst (I believe) 'advanced' nations as being still saddled with religion, which has also a common but more pronounced Right - wing bias.

We have seen here even people who can't believe in religion anymore still supporting it against secularism simply for political reasons.



Well, you must be, or your wouldn't be a Christian. Ow known as Godsuckers, but we are too polite to use the term.
I grew up in the deep south. While they may not be the most religious group, spiritual group, or moral group, (and they know this) they believe they reserve the right to be influenced by a belief that a government cannot control. They see it as their duty to be disobedient to those who wish to control them while at the same time claiming to be God-fearing. Notice it is never Jesus-fearing.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Did I say I am a Christian?
Not that I recall. Perhaps I was reaching assumed conclusions. Feel free to correct me by all means.
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Did I say I am a Christian?
They are struggling to put you in a box so they can treat you as a caricature/strawman of your “tribe”.

As it is, they are required to reason with you as an individual and address your points instead of lobbing dismissive stereotypical insults at your “tribe.”
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Did I say I am a Christian?
That is typical of you. You've said the same about being Buddhist.

You're just playing games.
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Old 02-06-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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Richard Dawkins was asking for it. He had no business insulting people based on his antagonism towards religion.
Threatening people for their stance on religion, politics, ideologies, gender or gender identification or for any other reason is immoral as well as cowardly. It's immoral but it harms others and can be used as a method of intimation and to silence that person's freedom of expression,

That you believe that death threats against Richard Dawkins are Warrenton shows that you do not have morality within yourself. If you think morality comes from your religion either you failed your religion or ot failed you.
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Old 02-06-2021, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Threatening people for their stance on religion, politics, ideologies, gender or gender identification or for any other reason is immoral as well as cowardly. It's immoral but it harms others and can be used as a method of intimation and to silence that person's freedom of expression,

That you believe that death threats against Richard Dawkins are Warrenton shows that you do not have morality within yourself. If you think morality comes from your religion either you failed your religion or ot failed you.
Do you consider it immoral as well as cowardly to wish for the early demise of others who hold beliefs you do not agree with?
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