Moral obligations for atheists (abortion, marriage, believe, Christ)
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You walk your own path quite nicely. You are not in the middle. And I agree, you would see right through BS easily. Trans points about religious people being dangerous are spot on. They are not BS. We only differ in how we choose to fight.
Thank you, Arach. Telling me I am not in the middle is one of the best compliments I have received.
LearnMe was talking about balance, which may or may not have a sense of "being in the middle". It's not that I don't think balance can be achieved. Maybe it can. The issue is that the concept of balance is too abstract. What exactly does it mean to be balanced? Extreme cases are often used to demonstrate what balance is not, but most people are not extreme.
Look. Mystic had about half a decade of patient questioning from me and never mind the reluctance to explain anything but an over willingness to pour toxic scorn on me all the while I was doing it. I'm not blaming anyone for thinking that Mystic sounds impressive. That's the only reason I expose him - it's a convincing scam that people need to know of.
Arach..well you are a good soul and probably look for the sense in Arach, believing there must be some there. I'll leave it to you to work it out.
Ah, Arq. what the hell is my scam all about? You seem to spout this garbage repeatedly without explaining what the hell I am scamming for. You have made it clear you are scamming for atheism to be the default for everyone despite its untenable and unsupportable basis in nothing but your skepticism about religious BS. Is that why you think I am running a scam, just because you are??? Please explain this scam business, Arq.
based on "strength of evidence" trans, his position is not unreasonable. Your lack of belief isn't even based on not knowing what you are talking about. You know the whole thing about me lying is crap so we just leave that be because you can't do anything else.
I will use your Words.
" ... Sortagod cannot be allowed to pass through inattention or being worn down with constant nagging, because it hands theism the logical default for free. Without their having to produce anything but fallacious arguments. "
That why you fight mystic's claim
I don't agree with mystic claim but a lot of what he say is consistent with what we observe. You use the above reason and I use consistent with observation.
Let me know why I should follow your method and not mine? or where I am misstating what you are saying.
I will work on stating "If I am misstating what you said ... tell me and I will change it until I get it right."
"Strength of evidence" might play a useful role when a decision has to be made. Do you think decisions have to be made when it comes to a debate about god belief or lack of it?
Ah, Arq. what the hell is my scam all about? You seem to spout this garbage repeatedly without explaining what the hell I am scamming for. You have made it clear you are scamming for atheism to be the default for everyone despite its untenable and unsupportable basis in nothing but your skepticism about religious BS. Is that why you think I am running a scam, just because you are??? Please explain this scam business, Arq.
Mystic you are hilarious. Do you seriously think that everyone out there doesn't know exactly what I mean (even if they don't agree) and you just make yourself look like that much more of a scammer when you pretend that you don't know.
Thank you, Arach. Telling me I am not in the middle is one of the best compliments I have received.
LearnMe was talking about balance, which may or may not have a sense of "being in the middle". It's not that I don't think balance can be achieved. Maybe it can. The issue is that the concept of balance is too abstract. What exactly does it mean to be balanced? Extreme cases are often used to demonstrate what balance is not, but most people are not extreme.
Balance is acquiescence in the face injustice, inequality. It is saying Black people can be racist too. One has to be a racist to say that. There are good people on both sides. That is balance.
"Strength of evidence" might play a useful role when a decision has to be made. Do you think decisions have to be made when it comes to a debate about god belief or lack of it?
Actually, the kind of belief involving God is not the kind typically associated with choice based on evidence. I was an atheist for over 30 years in the first half of my life and never even considered making a decision about God. It was my encounter in deep meditation that eliminated my atheism and set me on a course in search of confirming evidence. As a result, I have been accused of confirmation bias simply because I was actually trying to confirm my experiences, kind of a Catch22 all its own.
I'll take reason over insults any time. I know; I've seen a few, a very few, here who have made it plain they are just here to make trouble and enjoy it. Her.For a bad attitude like that, you need a her. And I think she may have a selection of gods, for every purpose and to suit every pocket.
another example of why people stay away from atheism in droves,
attitude in bold above.
are all atheists like that? no they are not. but the attitude expressed in bold above is often the "face of atheism" that is publicly vocalized and expressed.
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Balance is acquiescence in the face injustice, inequality. It is saying Black people can be racist too. One has to be a racist to say that. There are good people on both sides. That is balance.
I am not understanding the concept or the example.
However, I do agree that recognizing people on both sides are good can create balance in one's head.
Actually, the kind of belief involving God is not the kind typically associated with choice based on evidence. I was an atheist for over 30 years in the first half of my life and never even considered making a decision about God. It was my encounter in deep meditation that eliminated my atheism and set me on a course in search of confirming evidence. As a result, I have been accused of confirmation bias simply because I was actually trying to confirm my experiences, kind of a Catch22 all its own.
This is a concise summary. I appreciate it.
I am not going to say who is right or wrong, but that is not me trying to be balanced.
another example of why people stay away from atheism in droves,
attitude in bold above.
are all atheists like that? no they are not. but the attitude expressed in bold above is often the "face of atheism" that is publicly vocalized and expressed.
Another example of you trying to score a cheap an irrelevant point.
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