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Evolution is real and it is always happening, from fetus to human, baby to old man, from death to birth. Evolution is all around us.
There is no such thing as morality. We are born with innate qualities of compassion, fairness, empathy, tenderness, heroism. They are hidden when ego with greed, desire, sloth, take over. Ethical action is when when we allow our natural humanity to overcome the ego and act in ethical manner. All humans have that innate capacity, which some see as Divinity.
Humanity is natural to us. What religion teaches is methods to control the ego and to let our humanity shine. That includes practice of humility and charity, civility in order to live in a civil society.
All too often religion teaches just the opposite. Take for example the Southern Baptists.
What religion teaches is methods to control the ego and to let our humanity shine. .
Really.. This would make sense if this was a consistent religious message. I cannot help to think however that so much of religious doctrine and dogmatism, are anything about controlling the ego and letting our humanity shine. This is not to say there isnt some of that - but it is completed sledgehammered by competing messages of egoism and horrific human misery and tragedy. I mean is not often god represented as the epitome of an egotistical jerk within the wonderful world of religion.
“The implications of Darwinism: No ultimate foundations for ethics exist, no ultimate meaning in life exists, and free will is merely a human myth” Professor Provine, Cornell University.
Inference, not implications. The bad news for you is that if your god exists, 2 out of 3 are also true for your position, and the third means we are mere slaves to what your god allegedly designed us for.
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“If evolution is true, there can be no universal moral code that people should adhere to.”
Correct, our moral code is based on human evolution. But if there was a universal moral code, then the god of the Bible that ignores that universal moral code must be the ultimate immoral monster ever.
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When evolutionists (atheists) attempt to be moral, they are borrowing from different religion’s worldviews.
Ha, a student of Turek. You have this in the wrong order, different religions borrow from the culture of their times, that is why their morality is often different to other religions, and many moral ideas change over time.
Also, many evolutionists are religious, and many Christian evolutionists do not follow biblical morality (otherwise they would be placed in prison for breaking the law).
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Scripture tell us that everyone knows the biblical God, but atheists suppress the truth about God.
Not just atheists, that would be anyone else who does not believe in your god. And clearly scripture is wrong, atheists do not believe in gods. To suppress a truth must mean we actually believe. If scripture was correct, atheists by definition would not exist.
Really.. This would make sense if this was a consistent religious message. I cannot help to think however that so much of religious doctrine and dogmatism, are anything about controlling the ego and letting our humanity shine. This is not to say there isnt some of that - but it is completed sledgehammered by competing messages of egoism and horrific human misery and tragedy. I mean is not often god represented as the epitome of an egotistical jerk within the wonderful world of religion.
All religions dont teach the same, and all religions have faults, and also sublime messages. Jesus’s teachings were about love, forgiveness, do no harm, simplicity, charity, avoid hate and revenge and killings. ALL religions teach similarly. Unfortunately the mixed messages arise from human minds, even when the teachers were human as well. Ultimately it is upto each individual to pay attention to the Divinity within him and act accordingly.
"Your religion does not prohibit me from anything.
It prohibits you.
Learn the difference."
Cute, but as with a lot of cute stuff, it's wrong.
Your atheism restricts where certain holiday decorations can be put up in December. Just the most obvious example. Other religious people who don't celebrate those December holidays don't object to the decorations. Atheists are really uptight about a lot of things.
Cute, but as with a lot of cute stuff, it's wrong.
Your atheism restricts where certain holiday decorations can be put up in December. Just the most obvious example. Other religious people who don't celebrate those December holidays don't object to the decorations. Atheists are really uptight about a lot of things.
That is not atheism, that is your laws and your constitution. You are just upset it is the atheists telling you that you can not break laws.
That is not atheism, that is your laws and your constitution. You are just upset it is the atheists telling you that you can not break laws.
Nope, it's uptight atheists and killjoys filing lawsuits and then getting smug about it.
One of my coworkers is a Parsee from Calcutta, and I asked him about the Diwali celebrations there. Everyone participates and enjoys the festival, and if they're not Hindu they enjoy the cultural aspect of it. That's how it was with our December holidays until the party-poopers replaced all the customary symbols and traditions with snowmen.
Nope, it's uptight atheists and killjoys filing lawsuits and then getting smug about it.
One of my coworkers is a Parsee from Calcutta, and I asked him about the Diwali celebrations there. Everyone participates and enjoys the festival, and if they're not Hindu they enjoy the cultural aspect of it. That's how it was with our December holidays until the party-poopers replaced all the customary symbols and traditions with snowmen.
This is true about India where people wish Merry Christmas, Iid Mubarak, Happy Divali followed by “let us Eat!
I think what is more damaging was removing prayer from schools and not even replace with a moment of contemplation. Of course children can be taught how to pray at home, but starting the day of education with prayer is never a bad thing.
Nope, it's uptight atheists and killjoys filing lawsuits and then getting smug about it.
Please show us where uptight atheists and killjoys are saying you can not legally celebrate religious festivals.
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One of my coworkers is a Parsee from Calcutta, and I asked him about the Diwali celebrations there. Everyone participates and enjoys the festival, and if they're not Hindu they enjoy the cultural aspect of it. That's how it was with our December holidays until the party-poopers replaced all the customary symbols and traditions with snowmen.
And your coworker told you those party-poopers in Calcutta were atheists?
This is true about India where people wish Merry Christmas, Iid Mubarak, Happy Divali followed by “let us Eat!
I think what is more damaging was removing prayer from schools and not even replace with a moment of contemplation. Of course children can be taught how to pray at home, but starting the day of education with prayer is never a bad thing.
But make it a Hindu prayer, because the Christians will understand starting the day of education with prayer is never a bad thing.
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