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But if I accept that there are no unifying principles behind atheism, how can such a group seek legislative representation?
What makes you think that any group needs a "unifying principle" in order to receive legislative representation? The unifying theme among atheists is that they are all atheists just like all black people are black and all gay people are gay. They all just want the same rights as non-atheists, non-blacks, and non-gay people.
What makes you think that any group needs a "unifying principle" in order to receive legislative representation? The unifying theme among atheists is that they are all atheists just like all black people are black and all gay people are gay. They all just want the same rights as non-atheists, non-blacks, and non-gay people.
I don't want to contribute to taking this too far off-topic but I'm curious.
Do you honestly think non-atheists have rights atheists don't have?
I don't want to contribute to taking this too far off-topic but I'm curious.
Do you honestly think non-atheists have rights atheists don't have?
Yes I do. Start with god being preached everywhere we go, our money, our government, our highways covered with signs. That may be changing as I see reports of Atheist signs now too.
I think the best example off the top of my head would be the first George Bush who said “I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.”. it sums up how we are treated.
I don't want to contribute to taking this too far off-topic but I'm curious.
Do you honestly think non-atheists have rights atheists don't have?
I got to thinking and this also came to my mind from this the election in North Carolina last year. I found the quote on the “The Atheist Revolution” Which is a Blog, but think it reflects another view on what many Atheist see as bigotry against Atheist in the US today. Dole also lost this election, but I am sure it was not just for her statements against Atheist.
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“The anti-atheist bigotry utilized by Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) during her recent campaign is inexcusable. I have joined countless atheist bloggers in expressing outrage that such bigotry is tolerated in modern America. The challenge for us now, even after Dole lost the election, is one of recognizing that this may be a political tactic of which we will see more examples in future campaigns. It is time to seriously rethink our lack of organization and the political power we sacrifice by refusing to come together. Nobody is going to end anti-atheist bigotry for us; it is our struggle and our responsibility.”
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I got to thinking and this also came to my mind from this the election in North Carolina last year. I found the quote on the “The Atheist Revolution” Which is a Blog, but think it reflects another view on what many Atheist see as bigotry against Atheist in the US today. Dole also lost this election, but I am sure it was not just for her statements against Atheist.
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“The anti-atheist bigotry utilized by Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) during her recent campaign is inexcusable. I have joined countless atheist bloggers in expressing outrage that such bigotry is tolerated in modern America. The challenge for us now, even after Dole lost the election, is one of recognizing that this may be a political tactic of which we will see more examples in future campaigns. It is time to seriously rethink our lack of organization and the political power we sacrifice by refusing to come together. Nobody is going to end anti-atheist bigotry for us; it is our struggle and our responsibility.”
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What did Dole say about atheists?
(Although we're going off-topic--but I don't really mod this forum so, June, be gentle!)
Yes I do. Start with god being preached everywhere we go, our money, our government, our highways covered with signs. That may be changing as I see reports of Atheist signs now too.
I think the best example off the top of my head would be the first George Bush who said “I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.”. it sums up how we are treated.
I live in the same state and travel through Cary all the time. I'm on my way there on business in just a few days.
There are no 'highways covered in signs' unless you mean in the same sense that 'god is preached everywhere you go'. Because comments like these and others I've read today from you that really are not realistic are really making me start to question just how seriously I should take you.
I live in the same state and travel through Cary all the time. I'm on my way there on business in just a few days.
There are no 'highways covered in signs' unless you mean in the same sense that 'god is preached everywhere you go'. Because comments like these and others I've read today from you that really are not realistic are really making me start to question just how seriously I should take you.
How can we take you seriously with such assertions? They are all over the place. Some areas are worse than others.
What makes you think that any group needs a "unifying principle" in order to receive legislative representation? The unifying theme among atheists is that they are all atheists just like all black people are black and all gay people are gay. They all just want the same rights as non-atheists, non-blacks, and non-gay people.
I can see that. I get annoyed myself when I see a three hundred foot crucifix in the middle of ohio (or was that Indiana?) off the side of the freeway. I guess it would be like having anti-Gay or anti-Black literature up, from that viewpoint. But what would the agenda of such a representation be beyond the removal of this kind of stuff, or would that be enough?
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How can we take you seriously with such assertions?
They are all over the place. Some areas are worse than others.
