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the mechanism of evolution is said to have started to be a agent after the first living cell existed. You cannot apply evolution to the creation of the universe, and the first living cell.
Well of course not, why do you insist on comparing the incomparable, i.e. the universe vs. a living cell. Do you somehow feel that absurdity somehow give any credibility to your unsupported fantasy.
Oh I see, you pick and choose what you wnat to believe to be miracles. Did you know that is a form of faith?
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Gosh there you go again with another lame attempt to put words in my mouth. Let me be clear: there is no such thing as a 'miracle'. There are only things which we have scientific explanations for, and things that we do not yet have one for. The latter by no stretch of the imagination means it's a miracle, it simply means 'we don't know yet'.
You don't get it (or don't want to). I think (bolded) the term is "discovered". Not need to believe.
Life is great today for the theist. Then comes dessert.
But not everyone gets dessert, because some choose to leave at the end of the main course.
No it is need. There is nothing to be discovered unless you NEED to "discover" it.
Dessert is life, some just choose to waste it waiting for what wont happen after.
Because skeptics don't like evidence that contradicts their worldview.
Yep, many Christians are skeptical of the testimonial evidence which proves that Islam is objectively true. Too bad for them, many will find out too late that they were wrong. Many Shuvs and Zuuls will know what it is to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
Yep, many Christians are skeptical of the testimonial evidence which proves that Islam is objectively true. Too bad for them, many will find out too late that they were wrong. Many Shuvs and Zuuls will know what it is to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
the mechanism of evolution is said to have started to be a agent after the first living cell existed.
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Well of course not, why do you insist on comparing the incomparable, i.e. the universe vs. a living cell. Do you somehow feel that absurdity somehow give any credibility to your unsupported fantasy.
Quite true., AN. So why does EIOI888 then conflate it with this purposeful confusion?To confuse the kiddies in the audience? He blithely continues...
You cannot apply evolution to the creation of the universe, and the first living cell.
Of course you can't, so why mention it? Bioscience certainly does not.
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...the odds are still better than finding some deity with a magic wand that could create even a small moon, much less a universe)
...how sad to not be able to dream, to envision the unlimited possibilities, to be stuck in the thinking of a book written when the earth was believed flat. That may be comforting to some, but such a terrible prison for the mind.
How very prophetic, AN; never truer words spoken. To innocently and inquisitively begin to explore some concept in one's own mind, but then to slap oneself down and admonish oneself for having had such blasphemous thoughts!!! Indeed.
I cannot imagine living under such vile and ignorance-based strictures, and yet, Christians do, and proudly.
Especially when it's so easily disproven by modern, ever-accumulating and increasingly accurate knowledge...
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True, but it does advance the theory that the earth has four corners and that pi=3.0, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what they had to say.
Remember as well: to argue this stuff in the historical biblical past usually ended you up in Inquisition Prison. Nowadays, in modern Islam, it gets you stoned, imprisoned or at the least ridiculed and hassled.The result for that society? .....................
I cannot imagine living under such vile and ignorance-based strictures, and yet, Christians do, and proudly.
Especially when it's so easily disproven by modern, ever-accumulating and increasingly accurate knowledge...
Remember as well: to argue this stuff in the historical biblical past usually ended you up in Inquisition Prison. Nowadays, in modern Islam, it gets you stoned, imprisoned or at the least ridiculed and hassled.The result for that society? .....................
I'm very concerned about what Fundamentalists are trying to do in this country. Religion has become incredibly interwoven into politics, and I find it disturbing. Of course, that a whole new thread.
I am, so are Oak Trees, rocks, water, air, ....all sorts of things. The question of why? is largely irrelevant, there must be about ten thousand varying theories on that one, I've yet to find one that makes sense. Existence is its' own explanation, to ask "why" is an attempt to give "existence", properties it may not have. Kinda like asking "why is water wet?" it is simply one of its' properties. Existence is just another property of matter. It really ain't that complicated. But, some people seem to get off on complicating constipation. And.....as a specie, we ain't as special as some folks seem to think we are.
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Consequences indeed!
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