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Old 01-05-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Atlanta,Ga
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If there was a pretty fiscally conservative socially liberal party, they would have my vote in a heart beat. Additionally, I am more then happy to vote republican in local races.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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So, blacks do? Thanks for telling me who I vote for douchebag.
Yes, and your welcome. Get a life and stop trolling.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:25 AM
 
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Oh, that's where you were going with that. I assumed you meant that there would suddenly be a large amount of immigration from Europe to the US again. In that case, it's extremely unlikely.

For one, there's zero chance that there will be any massive change to immigration policy any time soon that will stave off the demographics of those most likely to immigrate here...legal or illegally. But let's run with that concept. Let's say that we just totally stop immigration all together and assume that everyone currently living here remains.

The likelihood of Whites no longer being the absolute majority by mid-century are still good due solely to birth rates. The birth rates of "Whites" has trended downward for the last quarter century, and the birth rates "Black" Asians and Latinos has trended upwards. "Whites" in this country also have a larger elderly population. Put these two together and it is easy to see where this will go.

But, and I should have questioned this earlier, what exactly does have to do with voting patterns?

Why would having more Whites or Whites not being the absolute majority of this country mean more Republican victories? The two are not mutually exclusive. While Whites do not vote for Democratic candidates at the same high percentages as Blacks, Asians and Latinos, there are still a ton of White Democrats. In many States that have very small "minority" population, Democrats still dominate local and national elections.



What do illegal immgrimants have to do with voting patterns. It is no secret that the core of the Republican party's Latino base is Cuban. All other Latinos vote for Democratic candidates at a rate of about 64% and 30% for Republican candidates.




Nice veiled swipe, but you are mis-reading it entirely. The largest core of latinos in this country are Mexicans, Salvadorians, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. The Democratic party already has a lock on Puerto Ricans, so that isn't really up for discussion. For the other three groups though, who do you think bears the brunt of most of the Republican positions that are most dear to them?

On a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, Republicans are against it. Don't you think that would have an effect on the voting patterns of citizen children of Mexicans and Central American immigrants?

Many Republicans advocate removing the citizenship and deporting the children of illegal immigrants and Democrats will not. If you are directly affected by this position, who would you likely to vote for?

Even when I mentioned that immigrants from Mexico and Central American have a different experience than those Latinos most likely to vote Republican (Cubans) you immediately assumed that I was talking about illegal immigrants. Why would a group of people so maligned by Republicans vote for them?

This is what Republicans do not get. Most people of color (Black, Latino or Asian) are pretty conservative socially. By and large they do not support abortion, same sex marriage, or whatever social conservative issue de jure you can conjure up. However, if you always attach these negative views towards them as a whole group such as Central American immigrants are likely to illegal or African-Americans are brainwashed (aka too dumb) in to voting for Democratic candidates, then they will continue to not vote for Republicans.

This even goes for Whites with moderate political views. They have almost been completely eliminated from the Republican party even though they were once the mainstay of the party a quarter century ago. The policies and platform of the party have gone so extreme, that Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller would likely not be able to be a major player in the party today. Hell, I bet Richard Nixon would even have a hard time operating in the Republican party in it's current form.

But, go ahead and bask in the momentary glory of electoral victory and believe there is nothing Republicans have to change to attract new voters. There is nothing you guys are doing wrong at all.
Don't pull out the fireworks just yet. The white fertility rate increased to 2.1 in 2007, which is replacement fertility.

The 2010 Statistical Abstract: Births, Deaths, Marriages, & Divorces

And why would a legal immigrant give a sh*t about the government deporting or denying citizenship to an illegal immigrant?
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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You are 100% correct. Which is why your belief that Cuban and Republican Marco Rubio will be a Latino political star is just wishful thinking on your part.
Save this post. You'll be eating it in 2020.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Save this post. You'll be eating it in 2020.
More wishful thinking on your part...

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Old 01-05-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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More wishful (and delusional) thinking on your part...
Careful -- your fear is showing.

Would you like to elaborate on why Rubio would not be a successful presidential candidate? Is he too white for you?
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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Is anyone truly surprised by this?

The inability of the Republican party to adjust themselves in such a way to appeal to a sizable chunk of African-American voters, or even acknowledge that there is something currently wrong with the message and polices of the party that precludes such a thing from happening, will mean this will continue for some time to come.
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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I never called anyone racist. I can point out where certain users have insulted entire races of people they don't know though.
Sent by YOU to 912 in this thread.

"lol, you sound like some racist. It was simply "renounced" within the last ten years and you expect things to shift ad if the past has no effect."
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Old 01-05-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Careful -- your fear is showing.

Would you like to elaborate on why Rubio would not be a successful presidential candidate? Is he too white for you?

I thought I'd already assigned you some readin'--

Latino Leaders -- Not! by Miguel Perez on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

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Old 01-05-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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No fear, my racist brother...just realistic.

I thought I'd already assigned you some readin'--

Latino Leaders -- Not! by Miguel Perez on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent
You really are one trick pony! Calling someone a RACIST rather than debating them makes you out to be nothing more than a simpleton.
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