04-18-2011, 08:21 AM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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In an effort to make the Beltline happen faster and cheaper -- For the transportation component, what about having a golf cart trail alongside the walking and cycling trail? Although a light-rail would be nice, however it would be very expensive to install and maintain and won't really alleviate traffic congestion (especially rush hour since many companies would not be on the Beltline). When thinking about the costs to maintain and lack of rail lines where needed....just ask Marta--it hasn't been sMarta.
This would be similar to Peachtree City's 90-mile network of multi-use paths for pedestrians, cyclists, and golf carts.
It just makes more sense to me. With gas prizes continuing to rise, I would love to be able to hop on my golf cart and take a scenic drive around the 22+ mile loop to midtown, piedmont, etc. without having to get on any of the major roads.
What do you think?
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Prefering golf carts to trains for the Beltline
04-18-2011, 08:48 AM
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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How far will a golf cart go on one charge? That might be a challenge.
04-18-2011, 08:56 AM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
AnsleyPark
How far will a golf cart go on one charge? That might be a challenge.
Golf carts normally travel between 15 and 30 miles on one charge depending on the terrain you are driving, load you are carrying, and the age of your batteries. The loop is only 22 miles and i'm sure it's nothing that golf a few golf cart charging stations in the parks couldn't solve.
04-18-2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
AtlantaRez
Golf carts normally travel between 15 and 30 miles on one charge depending on the terrain you are driving, load you are carrying, and the age of your batteries. The loop is only 22 miles and i'm sure it's nothing that golf a few golf cart charging stations in the parks couldn't solve.
Are you talking about something like this...
Personal rapid transit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...but using golf cart technology? I wouldn't want the Beltline to end up being a place for leisurely strolls golf carts rather than another viable public transit option. Atlanta obviously needs more transit options.
04-18-2011, 09:25 AM
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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I think that would be pretty darn cool!
04-18-2011, 09:37 AM
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I saw replace the rails with a water feature.....lets canoe around!
04-18-2011, 09:37 AM
Location: New York City Area
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Beltline Shuttle Service
I've always thought that the transit component of the Beltline should first start out with small shuttle buses, in order to build ridership. It would be cheaper and faster to implement, plus it would help condition and groom people for Beltline transit. Just like the rail, this could also be done in stages with each section connecting to a Marta station or streetcar line on each end. I think that this approach is a no-brainer.
As you can see, these shuttle buses can be quite attractive and are actually very comfortable to ride. Some can also provide wifi service and other perks.
04-18-2011, 09:44 AM
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Shuttle buses won't ever equal the ridership of rail transit. It would be a mistake to start with someone lesser and convert to rail later. Anyway, I doubt there will be any problem with ridership numbers...this project is highly anticipated and has been publicized for many years.
04-18-2011, 09:52 AM
Location: New York City Area
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Originally Posted by
DeaconJ
Shuttle buses won't ever equal the ridership of rail transit. It would be a mistake to start with someone lesser and convert to rail later. Anyway, I doubt there will be any problem with ridership numbers...this project is highly anticipated and has been publicized for many years.
It's better to have something in place than nothing. The way things are looking these days, rail may not happen for a while. Unless, of course, the one-cent tax manages to get passed (and we all know that's not a sure thing).
04-18-2011, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
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NYbyWAYofGA
It's better to have something in place than nothing. The way things are looking these days, rail may not happen for a while. Unless, of course, the one-cent tax manages to get passed (and we all know that's not a sure thing).
Patience, grasshopper. I would rather see the project done right than something temporary thrown into place just for the sake of having it.
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Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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