Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Georgia > Atlanta
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-15-2014, 01:59 PM
 
32,026 posts, read 36,796,625 times
Reputation: 13311

Advertisements

Cobb is predicting the Braves will lead to 50,000 new jobs and 28,000 new residents.

Not too shabby!

Welcome Back, Bullishness - Real Estate Bisnow (ATL)

 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:11 PM
 
10,974 posts, read 10,877,894 times
Reputation: 3435
Quote:
Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Cobb is predicting the Braves will lead to 50,000 new jobs and 28,000 new residents.

Not too shabby!

Welcome Back, Bullishness - Real Estate Bisnow (ATL)
What their source for this information?
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:12 PM
 
1,637 posts, read 2,630,968 times
Reputation: 803
Quote:
Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Cobb is predicting the Braves will lead to 50,000 new jobs and 28,000 new residents.

Not too shabby!

Welcome Back, Bullishness - Real Estate Bisnow (ATL)

I'm predicting we are going to get 20 inches of snow today but it probably isn't going to happen
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:27 PM
 
32,026 posts, read 36,796,625 times
Reputation: 13311
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvh View Post
What their source for this information?
Those folks up there are pretty sharp. I doubt that they would just pop off with something unless they had information to back it up.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Georgia
1,512 posts, read 1,963,372 times
Reputation: 1200
Quote:
Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Cobb is predicting the Braves will lead to 50,000 new jobs and 28,000 new residents.

Not too shabby!

Welcome Back, Bullishness - Real Estate Bisnow (ATL)
That is A LOT. I don't see it...
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:33 PM
 
32,026 posts, read 36,796,625 times
Reputation: 13311
Assuming they do it right that area could explode.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
7,359 posts, read 6,529,813 times
Reputation: 5177
Quote:
Originally Posted by arjay57 View Post
Those folks up there are pretty sharp. I doubt that they would just pop off with something unless they had information to back it up.
Given their attitudes since this whole thing went public, I wouldn't doubt that.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 03:16 PM
 
2,167 posts, read 2,831,286 times
Reputation: 1513
Quote:
Originally Posted by alco89 View Post
That is A LOT. I don't see it...
To put things in perspective, llets run the numbers. The Atlanta MSA has a population of about 5.4 million people currently, and an unemployment rate of right around 7% . . . that would indicate there are something like 380,000 people unemployed. Cobb is estimating this stadium is going to generate permanent jobs accounting for over 13% of the MSA's unemployed population, single-handedly lowering local unemployment from 7% to 6%.

Color me . . .skeptical.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 03:17 PM
 
1,114 posts, read 2,350,102 times
Reputation: 702
50,000 people is the population of Smyrna. At full bore, they're estimating 1M sf of retail/hotel/office. Let's say for the sake of simplicity, we'll say it's all retail. The avg Walmart is 100k sf and employs 225 people. Obviously higher end stores would employ more per sf but be open shorter hours. 10 Walmarts would employ 2,250 people. If it's all hotels...300sf/room & 8-12 employees to support per 10 rooms, you're still only up to 4k people and that's assuming you have a reason to keep 3,000+ hotel rooms at the stadium occupied year round.

Let's say it's 1M sf of office space. If we assume 5x5 cubes, you only pack in 40,000 people and technically those aren't jobs you created...they're just housed there.

These numbers are way out of left field and I'm guessing they're using some very optimistic multipliers on indirect job creation which is also how Georgia spent $1B on a Kia plant and $200M for NCR.

Last edited by Mishap; 01-15-2014 at 03:28 PM.. Reason: Off by 10 on # of employees to man a hotel
 
Old 01-15-2014, 03:56 PM
 
1,114 posts, read 2,350,102 times
Reputation: 702
I found a Brookings Institute report that for every 1 High Tech job (i.e. Apple), there’s 5 indirect jobs created. Let’s assume all the jobs created by the stadium are highly paid tech jobs. There’s ~3,141 on the payroll at the stadium + another let’s say 3,000 in the development. Then, 6,141 * 5 = 30,705 jobs created indirectly so about 37k total. Given a good number of the jobs at the stadium would be part time security, concessions, janitorial, etc and not making anywhere near the 125k Apple employees make this number is ridiculously optimistic. In fact the Braves payroll is shockingly low for the 3,141 employees who will make an avg of $11.4k/yr (35.8M payroll). Even Home Depot’s HQ probably doesn’t create 50k jobs in the area and they’re a $100B company.

Multiplier Effects: Connecting the Innovation and Opportunity Agendas | Brookings Institution
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Georgia > Atlanta

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:52 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top