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Old 01-09-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Got an email today stating that they will be updating the regional transportation plan aspect of PLAN2040.
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ARC is updating the PLAN 2040 Regional Transportation Plan (RTP) in 2013 and early 2014. The RTP reflects environmental, land use and intermodal considerations and provides a financially balanced vision of future transportation investments for the 18-county regional transportation area. This update is being prepared in response to reauthorization of the national transportation funding through MAP-21 (Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century).
RTP Update | Regional Transportation Plan | Atlanta Regional Commission

A nice little map showing transportation projects under review (look at all those streetcar lines )




A drop in open house meeting for the purposes of public input is scheduled for this Saturday in Decatur 3-5pm
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PLAN 2040 RTP Pop-Up Open House: January 11, 2014,
3:00 pm- 5:00 pm, downtown Decatur -
515 N McDonough Street.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:03 PM
 
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Awesome! Hope to see progress on these. Also glad to see "New highway capacity will likely be tolled" in the slide deck.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Not a bad plan...for the City, Dekalb and North Fulton. I think the BRT planned for Cobb is a fools errand without any type of commuter rail element. And nothing for Gwinnett? WTF
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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A nice little map showing transportation projects under review (look at all those streetcar lines )
There is no need to build HRT lines criss-crossing the city, when it can be implemented cheaper with streetcars.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Not a bad plan...for the City, Dekalb and North Fulton. I think the BRT planned for Cobb is a fools errand without any type of commuter rail element. And nothing for Gwinnett? WTF
I don't understand the BRT plan either. It looks like it is going to be on Cobb Pkwy. So, how exactly is this going to be rapid? I know they have line jumper spots and priority at lights, but it is still completely mixed with traffic. How long would it take to get from the Southern to Northern terminals? Looks like well over an hour. A high frequency bus service up and down Cobb Pkwy seems great, but to consider this to be some sort of transit backbone seems too hopeful. I think they could get away with a BRT in the new HOT lanes as a decent transit backbone. Just not Cobb Pkwy.

No projects in Gwinnett is curious.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Scratching my head on this one folks.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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...I think the BRT planned for Cobb is a fools errand without any type of commuter rail element. And nothing for Gwinnett? WTF

Agreed.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:40 PM
 
Location: East Point
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There is no need to build HRT lines criss-crossing the city, when it can be implemented cheaper with streetcars.
unless street traffic gets heavier.

streetcars are a great solution as a last mile connection, but there are some corridors in which we need a backbone of a subway system.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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Not a bad plan...for the City, Dekalb and North Fulton. I think the BRT planned for Cobb is a fools errand without any type of commuter rail element.
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I don't understand the BRT plan either. It looks like it is going to be on Cobb Pkwy. So, how exactly is this going to be rapid? I know they have line jumper spots and priority at lights, but it is still completely mixed with traffic. How long would it take to get from the Southern to Northern terminals? Looks like well over an hour. A high frequency bus service up and down Cobb Pkwy seems great, but to consider this to be some sort of transit backbone seems too hopeful. I think they could get away with a BRT in the new HOT lanes as a decent transit backbone. Just not Cobb Pkwy.
The Cobb Parkway Bus Rapid Transit proposal is just a cover for the passenger rail transit line that Cobb County business and real estate interests really want as a means of redeveloping the Cobb Parkway corridor into a European-style boulevard lined with high-density development.

The proposed Cobb Parkway BRT was actually a proposed light rail transit line until a fierce backlash against the transit-heavy plan by Cobb County's dominant anti-transit political factions in 2011 forced Cobb County business interests to downgrade the proposed high-capacity transit line from an LRT line to a BRT line.

The high-capacity transit line (which will likely end up being a Heavy Rail Transit line in the long-run because of Cobb County business interests' intense desire to have a direct rail transit connection between the US 41 Cobb Pkwy corridor and the world-leading Atlanta Airport by way of Downtown and Midtown Atlanta) is currently proposed to operate on grade-separated transit-only right-of-way in the median of Cobb Parkway.

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And nothing for Gwinnett? WTF
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No projects in Gwinnett is curious.
Long-term transportation planning in Gwinnett County is in a state of disarray in the aftermath of the fallout from the ethics and corruption issues of the previous Gwinnett County Board of Commissioners, and in the aftermath of the backlash against the late 2011 rocky start-up of I-85 HOT Lanes, particularly from Gwinnett County's more-conservative quarters.

The fallout from the ethics and corruption issues of the previous Gwinnett BoC and the backlash against the rocky start-up of the I-85 HOT Lanes have left long-term transportation planning in a political wilderness of sorts which has enabled the most ardent anti-transit political factions to step into a political power vacuum and once-again dominate the county's political climate for the time being like they did when the county was much more sparsely-populated, much less-diverse and much less-crowded.

The current Gwinnett County BoC has even many times over the past year-and-a-half (particularly since the voter rejection of the 2012 T-SPLOST) had to reassure the county's politically-dominant anti-transit voting factions that no transit would be included in any transportation proposals.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:18 PM
 
Location: East Atlanta
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The Cobb Parkway Bus Rapid Transit proposal is just a cover for the passenger rail transit line that Cobb County business and real estate interests really want as a means of redeveloping the Cobb Parkway corridor into a European-style boulevard lined with high-density development.

The proposed Cobb Parkway BRT was actually a proposed light rail transit line until a fierce backlash against the transit-heavy plan by Cobb County's dominant anti-transit political factions in 2011 forced Cobb County business interests to downgrade the proposed high-capacity transit line from an LRT line to a BRT line.

The high-capacity transit line (which will likely end up being a Heavy Rail Transit line in the long-run because of Cobb County business interests intense desire to have a direct rail transit connection between the US 41 Cobb Pkwy corridor and the world-leading Atlanta Airport by way of Downtown and Midtown Atlanta) is currently proposed to operate on grade-separated transit-only right-of-way in the median of Cobb Parkway.
Is there a link to some HRT plans that you know of?
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