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Within the last two weeks, the AJC published a piece about the latest 30-year-plan that contains projects planned to improve Atlanta traffic. The most unnerving part about the list of improvements - something that should bring all of us back to reality when considering what is needed to do this - is only $15 billion of this money will be for new projects. The rest is needed just to maintain the already-clogged roads we have. Ouch. $59 billion is a ton of money, but spread over a couple of decades to 2040, it still leaves Atlanta well behind the mark..."
This article is not really offering a solution, just saying "there is better ways to spend the money" than this project.
Even if we continue to build more roads more and more people will continue to use roads until the cost it too high. That cost can be time (in traffic) or money.
The only cure for traffic is density which in turn allows for more transportation options. You get density by having people directly pay the full cost of living far away.
At this point, not one dime should be used for road improvements until a significantly better mass transit plan is in place.
For one, if the metro densified from the 40s on out instead of spreading out, the transit network that wouldve come in place would likely make the road network thats here now look too over the top. And two, if you build more road people are just going to live further and drive more.
At this point, not one dime should be used for road improvements until a significantly better mass transit plan is in place.
For one, if the metro densified from the 40s on out instead of spreading out, the transit network that wouldve come in place would likely make the road network thats here now look too over the top. And two, if you build more road people are just going to live further and drive more.
Cripple the vast majority of Atlanta workers until the vast minority has mass transit? Not really rational. That's killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
Cripple the vast majority of Atlanta workers until the vast minority has mass transit? Not really rational. That's killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
Seemed to do fine when we crippled the streetcar network till everyone bought a car. But no one is even saying to rip out all the roads just that people should directly pay for their use.
- One place to spend some of that extra money on is figuring out where in the world the extra Braves traffic is going to go in Cobb County in 2017 and beyond. There will have to be bus bridges that connect MARTA to CCT or something, not to mention improved interchanges near the already taxed, complicated intersection of I-285, I-75, Hwy. 41, and Windy Hill Rd. That $$ may come from Cobb taxpayers, but the traffic effects will extend far past Cobb and will have to fall on the state in some way, so money needs to be spent here.
Seemed to do fine when we crippled the streetcar network till everyone bought a car. But no one is even saying to rip out all the roads just that people should directly pay for their use.
You read a different post than I did. And the days of the old streetcar system are hardly comparable to modern days.
And the days of the old streetcar system are hardly comparable to modern days.
I agree switching from a car to transit does not require anything more than the price of a ticket. But going from transit to car requires a five figure investment, space to park it, training, and licensing before you can drive.
Cripple the vast majority of Atlanta workers until the vast minority has mass transit? Not really rational. That's killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
What good is a goose once it's already laid the golden egg? I say kill kill kill.!
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