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Old 07-11-2016, 02:42 PM
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Yeah, it is interesting watching these divergent "strategies" between Buckhead and Midtown in reaction to traffic and growth. Buckhead trying to maximize and preserve space for cars, Midtown going for smarter road diets and transportation alternatives. Midtown seems to be getting a lot more growth lately and I (and most others) would prefer getting around in Midtown over Buckhead even by car.

It will be quite a contrast driving along a pleasant two-laned, tree & on-street-parking lined Peachtree in Midtown then suddenly be on the 5 / 6 lane mess that is Peachtree in Buckhead.
There is a reason they quit doing on-street parking in downtown areas. It creates a lot of accidents.

If you don't know the history, you are doomed to repeat it.
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Old 07-11-2016, 02:44 PM
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Piedmont, Lenox/Cheshire Bridge?
I hate driving in that part of midtown. You can get stuck any time of day, although east-west seems to be harder than north-south. Now I am not fond of Peachtree in Buckhead, but Piedmont is usually ok.
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Old 07-11-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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There is a reason they quit doing on-street parking in downtown areas. It creates a lot of accidents.

If you don't know the history, you are doomed to repeat it.
Fine, no on-street parking. We'll just put in a center turn-lane / delivery lane, with dedicated left-turn lanes at the major intersections. The bike paths can be buffered with bollards or planters.
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Because the loudest voices were the ones that were horrified by the idea that their precious center car lanes (which don't work as it is) would be "taken away" for cyclists (even though they weren't traffic engineers). They also happened to have significant political pull with local and state officials.
Gulch, it's not simply a matter of people being inherently anti-Bike. As we noted the other day, a large number of the influential people in Midtown are Buckheadians.

So it's really more a question of where the bike lanes are located and the nature of the surrounding street patterns. There's a lot more asphalt in Midtown, which makes it a lot easier to carve out protected bike lanes.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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There is a reason they quit doing on-street parking in downtown areas. It creates a lot of accidents.

If you don't know the history, you are doomed to repeat it.
Any stats that support that? I'd expect it lowers overall accidents and reduces the severity of the ones that still happen as it forces people to slow down. Just like narrower lanes are safer.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Fine, no on-street parking. We'll just put in a center turn-lane / delivery lane, with dedicated left-turn lanes at the major intersections. The bike paths can be buffered with bollards or planters.
Bus-only lane!
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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Bus-only lane!
Why don't we go with a bus only lane, one streetcar lane, two Bike lanes and a pedestrian lane?
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Why don't we go with a bus only lane, one streetcar lane, two Bike lanes and a pedestrian lane?
Heck, we'll widen the sidewalks, shielded bike paths on either curb, and transit lanes (bus + streetcar + emergency vehicles) on the inside. That leaves enough room for pedestrian islands at stops, and a grassy median.



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Old 07-12-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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Well, I'm starting to feel better about just turning it all over to the Millennials.

I would to see our constitutional right to drive preserved, even if it's on a limited basis. I don't care what anybody says, I don't want to walk or ride a bike to the grocery store.
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Well, I'm starting to feel better about just turning it all over to the Millennials.

I would to see our constitutional right to drive preserved, even if it's on a limited basis. I don't care what anybody says, I don't want to walk or ride a bike to the grocery store.
Don't worry about it. The preference for motorized on demand transportation will never go away.
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