Special Election - 6th Congressional District (Atlanta, Dallas: lessons, coastal, Asian)

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[MikeHonchoATL]

The butthurt is real.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by blisterpeanuts

It's not a given that Texas will "flip". It has two main sources of Democrat voters: Mexican immigrants and Blue State immigrants. Texas (like the rest of the South and Southwest) is seeing a blip of liberal voting trends especially in the larger cities, but this is temporary. The reasons:

- the children of immigrants assimilate and become more moderate than their parents

- immigration from Mexico, both legal and illegal, is drying up.

- the economy.

- The Democrats.

The Democrats hoped that a huge Hispanic backlash against Trump's supposed demonizing of Mexican illegals would result in a massive electoral upset in 2016, but that never happened. It turns out that many Hispanics disapprove of illegal immigration; a large percentage of Mexican-Americans, for example, want them rounded up and sent home.

The children of Hispanic immigrants tend to become like other white ethnics. They speak English, share values of other middle class people, and have less nationalist feelings toward the mother country e.g. Mexico.

The economy is good, and getting better under Trump. A good economy favors the party in power. Trump's energy policy will undoubtedly support increased domestic exploration and export. This will greatly benefit Texas.

The other reason Texas, like Georgia and other red states, isn't going to flip any time soon: The Democrats. They are their own worst enemy. Rather than recruit candidates who are about to win an election, they instead come up with these awful, unelectable people like Hillary Clinton and this Ossoff.

Oh, Ossoff's probably a nice enough guy. But he has zero experience other than as a Congressional aide. A CONGRESSIONAL AIDE??? That's his main work experience and accomplishment in life? That's not enough to even get you a job at the 7/11 or the McDonald's. Then there was the ridiculous amount of money they poured into the race -- and claiming a lot of his money was smaller donations is beside the point. He looked like a bought-and-sold politician, and that didn't obviously sit well with a lot of voters.

The Republicans shouldn't get complacent; their candidate is no Margaret Thatcher, just a mediocre pol without much charisma. The Republicans, like the D's, need to recruit young enthusiastic people of accomplishment to get out there and support the party. That's the way it works.

As person who lived in Texas, a black person. a person general grew up a around diversity. Something tells me you have low interaction with minorities.

Over 2/3 of minority in general immigrants or not vote Democrats. Republicans in general are have trouble with minorities point blank. This is not good for long run with Republican.

When immigrants come into the US yes there doing to be assimilation but that doesn't mean they are going lose are cultural ties. Similar to how African Americans are.

Notice people aren't flocking to Mississippi, Arkansas and etc. those are pure red states, Their coming to TX, GA, NC, FL, states that have more progressive cities Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Austin, Charlotte, Raleigh etc.




I said this before the House and senate tend switch back and forth. Republicans are like oh the democrat party is dying blah blah, the exact same thing said to the Republican Party in 06 and 08. cause it's a repeating cycle.

There a pattern .... A President start off with his Party dominating.... and by middle and end the other Party takes control. Then the Pattern repeats with other Party.... A President start off with his Party dominating.... and by middle and end the other Party takes control. Then the Pattern repeats with other Party.


When Biill Clinton (D) enter the white house in 92 the speaker of the house was Tom Foley (D)

During his terms the republicans took control Newt Gingrich (R) became speaker Democrat Dry season starts

When George Bush (R) enter the white house in 2000 the speaker of the house was Dennis Hastert (R)

During his terms the Democrats took control Nancy Pelosi (D) became speaker Republican Dry season starts

When Obama (D) enter the white house in 08 the speaker of the house was Nancy Pelosi (D)

During his terms the republicans took control John Boehner (R) became speak, Democrat Dry season starts

Now Trump (R) enter the white house in 2016 the speaker of the house was Paul Ryan (R)

There seem be this faulty logic that Trump won because most people agreed with him, meanwhile he did not win popular vote.... he won because the electoral collages. He mange to win a few Midwestern state by 1 percent. . He ran as being an outsider, being president 4 years he can't do that in 2020. And he needs to bring those Manufacturing job back to those Midwestern states. Basically if Trump grows even 1% less popular in those Midwestern states a Democrats will retake the presidency.

This district the 6 is republican strong hold. it had nothing to do with Ossoff the Odds of Dem winning is low.

The question becomes those purple districts.Trump is pretty much setting up for the cycle, for Democrat to retake the house in 1 or 2 midterms.

[ExNooYawk2]

Yadda yadda, the GOP voters are yucking it up today over their four percent win in in GA. We democrats are supposed to believe this is a referendum on 45. When 45's approval ratings go up beyond 35 percent, I'll listen. Until then, 45-ers are in the minority. You can pretend you're riding high but you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Almost 65% of the electorate does not approve of your present. Yuck THAT up.

[ExNooYawk2]

Originally Posted by 0nyxStation

My oh my. Team Blue Donkey is really upset today. I guess no matter how old people are it just takes certain things to make them behave like children.

I don't think people really thought Jon Ossoff would win. He didn't even live in the district, which probably went against him. His purpose was to rattle the GOP and he did exactly that. Millions of dollars pouring in from various places shows how nervous the GOP was about losing this race. The district has been red and backward since 1979. That doesn't change overnight. What I hear now are HUGE sighs of relief from republicans underneath all the gloating. They know they have their work cut out for them now. No guarantees in future elections.

[flamadiddle]

This video pretty much sums it up...

https://youtu.be/_3eA04i285A

[bryantm3]

jon ossoff didn't stand for anything at all... he was corporate, globalist, someone who's vote could be bought off easily. people thought he was a liar. that's why he didn't win. and yeah, i ended up voting for him in the end. but it's unacceptable for the national democrats to keep propping up these candidates when their core constituency is decidedly anti-corporate, diverse, and pro-individual liberty-- even if those with the money and power in the party are not.

[whodean]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

jon ossoff didn't stand for anything at all... he was corporate, globalist, someone who's vote could be bought off easily. people thought he was a liar. that's why he didn't win.t.

Insert Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi and your points remain 100% accurate

[budgetwise5]

Does anyone ever get sick of voting for the same garbage over and over? The two system party is rigged, and despite all of their talking points and platforms, politicians are all corporatists and sold to the highest bidder. If people really wanted change they would support third parties instead of giving into the party (not parties - party - because they are one and the same) brainwashing that you are throwing away your vote by voting third party. We have two parties of corrupt and more corrupt, and good luck figuring out which is which.

The problem is that most people are gullible and fearful of real change, and it takes courage to buck the trend or stand up to your oppressors. It's so much easier to go along doing what you have been doing all along then to really try fix the problems. Just treat the symptoms and ignore the underlying disease or the elephant in the room. Let's all bicker about healthcare insurance while ignoring the elephant in the room of why healthcare has gotten so unaffordable in the first place, or how the healthcare industry has no transparency in pricing and has a monopoly.

[primaltech]

There's no lesson to be learned, here. Ossoff was a very good candidate, and that's why he was competitive and almost won a conservative, Republican district. A district that overwhelmingly voted for Tom Price every time, FFS. Are you people nuts?

Give the young man a huge amount of credit, and give the Democrats credit. This is Georgia. And this was one election. If Dems keep fighting this well, eventually the tide will turn, and they will win some elections in this state.

Seriously, look at the rate of progress here, with Price's vote margins vs. Handel's narrow victory, and look at the fact that Ossoff got 49% on the first vote. Democrats clearly can already be competitive, and with not much more time and improved ground game and organization and strategy, will start to be able to win in this district and in Georgia in general.

This is not a time to even mention either Hillary or Bernie, or trying to make the party too liberal or too centrist. Just be Democrats and say what you believe in and campaign on that. You might could argue that Ossoff tried to lean too centrist, but that was not a bad strategy in this district. Again, he almost won and that in itself is amazing. And the dude's 30. I mean, he's got a billion elections left in him. And he said he was about to move into the district soon, so there will no longer be that issue.