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Old 01-17-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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As long as the cars are walker / wheelchair accessible, I bet we can make it, arjay!
They should provide scooters, Ansley. Our Sam's Club just got a whole new fleet of them and they really move out.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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How does the saying go? A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in?

"No transit in my life time" isn't a good enough reason to not fund something. After all, if we didn't fund it then it would just get pushed back even more.
We oldsters hereby bequeath to you MARTA, the Beltline, Piedmont Park, the Midtown, Buckhead, Perimeter, downtown and Cumberland skylines, a number of world class stadiums and arenas, universities, hospitals, Fortune 500 headquarters, interstates, museums, the world's busiest airport, cures for disease, and a host of other amenities and benefits.

Feel free to run with it.

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Old 01-17-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: In your feelings
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Sounds like a solid foundation to build on. I hope our generation's contribution will be a dramatic expansion of transit and a structure for city development that makes economic mobility possible again for its poorest residents.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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We oldsters hereby bequeath to you MARTA, the Beltline, Piedmont Park, the Midtown, Buckhead, Perimeter, downtown and Cumberland skylines, a number of world class stadiums and arenas, universities, hospitals, Fortune 500 headquarters, interstates, museums, the world's busiest airport, cures for disease, and a host of other amenities and benefits.

Feel free to run with it.

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Old 01-18-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Y'all will probably have something in place before 2025, but it will be crap, and no one will care. A streetcar stuck in traffic, and probably in the bad neighborhoods of the south side or something.

I wonder what year the next actual heavy rail station finally will be open. Whether that's an infill, extension, or what. 2030 maybe? Almost 3 full decades after the last one?
And Cobb County will still have a local bus system that doesn't run on Sunday. Don't poo poo on Atlanta for actually investing in transit.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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We oldsters hereby bequeath to you MARTA, the Beltline, Piedmont Park, the Midtown, Buckhead, Perimeter, downtown and Cumberland skylines, a number of world class stadiums and arenas, universities, hospitals, Fortune 500 headquarters, interstates, museums, the world's busiest airport, cures for disease, and a host of other amenities and benefits.

Feel free to run with it.

If you're younger than 70, your generation doesn't get to claim the creation of most of the above.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Atlanta City Council approved Atlanta Transportation Plan in final Full Council meeting of 2018. includes cordon pricing.
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Planners want to reduce the “driving alone” percentage of trips from 54 to about 35 percent or less.

The way to do that isn’t just getting people out of cars, but it’s “culturally re-aligning everything that we do in order to encourage people to use other modes of transportation,” Sidfall said.

So that’s channeling people into transit, walking and biking; and also setting policies that cut down on demand for road space, like getting people carpooling, vanpooling or working flex hours and commuting at off-peak times.

The report also says the city could maximize efficiency with “incentives to travel differently,” then it mentions “cordon pricing.” That means tolls to drive into certain sections of a city.
https://saportareport.com/atlanta-transportation-plan/
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Atlanta City Council approved Atlanta Transportation Plan in final Full Council meeting of 2018. includes cordon pricing.

https://saportareport.com/atlanta-transportation-plan/

Oh look, the city thinking about congestion zones! Neat!


I'll have to spend some time leafing through the plan.
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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Atlanta City Council approved Atlanta Transportation Plan in final Full Council meeting of 2018. includes cordon pricing.

https://saportareport.com/atlanta-transportation-plan/
The demographics of the survey seem pretty out of character with the city as a whole. 52% making over $75k and 21% making over $150k? 40% with a post-graduate degree? 78% biked or walked for a trip within three days? Seems like most surveyed were in Midtown and Downtown.

And as for the high-injury maps, I'd really like to see the criteria for this, and what constitutes "high injury". There are some intersections around my neighborhood ranked as "highest" where I have never seen so much as an ambulance or fender bender in the area in the 13 years I've lived there traveling those intersections almost daily. The intersections marked are also low-speed areas.

I'm not surprised at the one marked on the exit from our neighborhood. We've asked for a signal numerous times due to the number of crashes, but have been refused every time.

Outside of those things, I found the report pretty decent. It definitely does not go into the "evil car driver" spectrum much at all. Although I did find it odd how many people said they would take transit only if someone else paid for it.

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Oh look, the city thinking about congestion zones! Neat!
Most likely looking at a few small areas of downtown and possibly midtown. Don't think we'll see large swaths of town covered by these. I'd also be surprised if they covered any major commuting routes. Certainly no interstates.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Oh look, the city thinking about congestion zones! Neat!

Agreed! Hope to see these happen soon. It is a great solution to both reduce traffic and increase transportation funding.
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