Atlantans Organizing Rally for a Car Curfew (Dallas: subdivisions, dangerous)

[jsvh]

I actually was not there. I am out of state at the moment.

But given all the coverage, looks like it was a success: https://www.11alive.com/mobile/artic...2-851f3007ff25

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by dblackga

7. If you're too impaired to drive, you're too impaired to ride a scooter. And yet, look outside bars and restaurants -- piles and piles of scooters.

Have you noticed the piles of cars clustered outside bars and restaurants? Far more. Can we at least agree we should get rid of parking minimums especially around bars? I mean drunk driving you are likely to kill others. Drunk scootering / biking and you are likely to mostly look Goofy and get hit by a car. Either way, cars are the main danger still.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Have you noticed the piles of cars clustered outside bars and restaurants? Far more. Can we at least agree we should get rid of parking minimums especially around bars? I mean drunk driving you are likely to kill others. Drunk scootering / biking and you are likely to mostly look Goofy and get hit by a car. Either way, cars are the main danger still.

I don't know whether to dispute this or just continue to watch these amusing posts.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by jsvh

This is my understanding from having been at the site for the rally / memorial:




The people behind our car-first infrastructure are in the wrong. You can't blame people for not wanting to ride bikes / scooters in roads like this.

But the article I read stated that the scooter rider was at the Arts Center MARTA station prior to the accident. That doesn't jive with him riding north on W. Peachtree.

[ddm2k]

Y'all wouldn't have this problem if people would stop a few deadly habits I've witnessed as an out-of-stater.

Traveling into the city headed southbound on I-85:

1. The speed: 85, 90 MPH drivers. They are the rule, not the exception. We have 70 MPH speed limits in NC and SC, but you rarely see anyone doing more than 10 over.

2. The lack of signals, which I'm used to, but combined with

3. CUTTING TWO OR MORE LANES IN ONE FELL SWOOP. This is the killer. I can deal with the first two. But when I check my mirrors, check my blind spot, and begin to merge (slowly) someone ALWAYS cuts in and misses side swiping me by 2 feet or less.

Traffic enforcement is lackadaisical at best, and "unsafe movements" are the real killer. Most people can move over for a speeder.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by ddm2k

Y'all wouldn't have this problem if people would stop a few deadly habits I've witnessed as an out-of-stater.

Traveling into the city headed southbound on I-85:

1. The speed: 85, 90 MPH drivers. They are the rule, not the exception. We have 70 MPH speed limits in NC and SC, but you rarely see anyone doing more than 10 over.

2. The lack of signals, which I'm used to, but combined with

3. CUTTING TWO OR MORE LANES IN ONE FELL SWOOP. This is the killer. I can deal with the first two. But when I check my mirrors, check my blind spot, and begin to merge (slowly) someone ALWAYS cuts in and misses side swiping me by 2 feet or less.

Traffic enforcement is lackadaisical at best, and "unsafe movements" are the real killer. Most people can move over for a speeder.

eh, for what its worth - I was driving home from Pittsburgh and out in suburban Charlotte on I-85 - alot of those folks were doing 80 - 85 too...

I will agree though, enforcement in Atlanta has gone to hell as far as speeding is concerned.

2 and 3 however happens just about everywhere today.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

2 and 3 however happens just about everywhere today.

For cutting across multiple lanes... Coming down I-75 South where the I-85 north exit is on the left. Literally 100% of the time, someone cuts across from the far left lane at the last second, across two lanes to stay on I-75 South. 100% of the time I go this way (which is almost every day), I see this.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

For cutting across multiple lanes... Coming down I-75 South where the I-85 north exit is on the left. Literally 100% of the time, someone cuts across from the far left lane at the last second, across two lanes to stay on I-75 South. 100% of the time I go this way (which is almost every day), I see this.

Yeah, they do that here in Texas too - like the roads suddenly somehow reconfigured themselves last night and its altogether new to them. On my way into the office this morning I had a guy cut across a 3 lane divided highway to make a left turn while slamming on his brakes right infront of me (I was in the left lane) to get into the only lane for the left turns.

Then on the highway they will ride the left lane until 1/16th of a mile before their exit and jump across.

Houston and DFW will make one drive with white knuckled grips.

[ddm2k]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Yeah, they do that here in Texas too - like the roads suddenly somehow reconfigured themselves last night and its altogether new to them. On my way into the office this morning I had a guy cut across a 3 lane divided highway to make a left turn while slamming on his brakes right infront of me (I was in the left lane) to get into the only lane for the left turns.

Then on the highway they will ride the left lane until 1/16th of a mile before their exit and jump across.

Houston and DFW will make one drive with white knuckled grips.

Guys. TEXAS. (And Oklahoma too, to be fair)

Your on-ramps are death traps for the uninitiated.

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On the east coast:

- On-ramp traffic has their own lane, which provides advance warning that you must merge or your lane will end
- If you take an exit, then keep going straight, you will be put back on the interstate

In TX/OK:

- On-ramp traffic routes straight into another lane of traffic, already at speed
- If you take an exit, then keep going stragiht, you will be put on the SERVICE ROAD


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I think, for this reason, service road real estate is much more valuable out that way. There are businesses lined up the entire distance between exits.

East coast is a little different, there's not always a parallel service road the entire span between 2 exits, and the desirable real estate is closer to the exits, instead of closer to being visible from the interstate. For this reason, we rely more on billboards and signage to make the passing traffic aware.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Yeah, they do that here in Texas too - like the roads suddenly somehow reconfigured themselves last night and its altogether new to them. On my way into the office this morning I had a guy cut across a 3 lane divided highway to make a left turn while slamming on his brakes right infront of me (I was in the left lane) to get into the only lane for the left turns.

Then on the highway they will ride the left lane until 1/16th of a mile before their exit and jump across.

Houston and DFW will make one drive with white knuckled grips.

I found Dallas terrifying to drive in. One day when I was there, some 20-something literally stopped in the third lane over and put on her blinker, waiting for a clearing to take the exit she wanted. Other people just drive off across the grass to the access road. Incredible.