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Maybe yes, 'we' have to play up our cultural assets because that's our trump card, but I just feel that the commercialism in Sydney killed off a lot of that feel in the central city. Yes you have areas like Newtown, but for the most part the Cross or Darling Harbour is just too glitzy or seedy compared to Melbourne. Oxford St towards Darlinghurst/Paddington is a little bit like Fitzroy or Collingwood. Glebe and Balmain are pretty nice areas though.
I don't know anyone who lives in Sydney and goes to Darling Harbour. As for the X, if you think it's seedy now, you should have seen it when it was seedy. It's just bars jammed with westies these days, there's barely any brothels left. I'm not really sure how either is relevant to the arts scene in Sydney though.
I don't know anyone who lives in Sydney and goes to Darling Harbour. As for the X, if you think it's seedy now, you should have seen it when it was seedy. It's just bars jammed with westies these days, there's barely any brothels left. I'm not really sure how either is relevant to the arts scene in Sydney though.
Well nightlife is part of culture, and the Cross is known for that. Yes, it has cleaned up a lot, but these areas just don't emanate any sense of being 'cultural' these days.
Well nightlife is part of culture, and the Cross is known for that. Yes, it has cleaned up a lot, but these areas just don't emanate any sense of being 'cultural' these days.
Sydney is not Kings Cross and Darling Harbour, any more than London is Covent Garden or NY is Times Square.
Well then what cities are 'cultural capitals', if any? NYC and London are like that because of their size too. Melbourne no more arty than Darwin? There goes your credibility.
It's more Hobart's summers which are a problem imo. They're English-like in how cool they are.
You're dead on. While Canberra does appear to have bitter winters, at least they have summer, can't say the same about Hobart. I spent most of my life growing up in Hobart, and one of my biggest gripes was the climate. Not only do we have to contend with cold winters, we get matched with woeful summers. Many Hobartians like the cold weather, but I couldn't stand it, and it was one of the reasons I left.
You look at the average summer temps between London and Hobart, and London comes out warmer...
You're dead on. While Canberra does appear to have bitter winters, at least they have summer, can't say the same about Hobart. I spent most of my life growing up in Hobart, and one of my biggest gripes was the climate. Not only do we have to contend with cold winters, we get matched with woeful summers. Many Hobartians like the cold weather, but I couldn't stand it, and it was one of the reasons I left.
You look at the average summer temps between London and Hobart, and London comes out warmer...
I knew the averages before I arrived in Hobart, but first day I got there, in December, it was sunny and a warm 29C. The next day? Wet, grey and 12-13C. Felt very cool for summer, for sure. Launceston at least gets warmer days, but nights are chilly even in summer by our standards. In Cradle Mountain it was snowing in summer when I was there!
You're dead on. While Canberra does appear to have bitter winters, at least they have summer, can't say the same about Hobart. I spent most of my life growing up in Hobart, and one of my biggest gripes was the climate. Not only do we have to contend with cold winters, we get matched with woeful summers. Many Hobartians like the cold weather, but I couldn't stand it, and it was one of the reasons I left.
You look at the average summer temps between London and Hobart, and London comes out warmer...
That's what I like about the USA and Australia. There is a variation in weather, we actually have seasons. I love the climate of the East Coast US, you got snow every winter, colourful Autumns and sunny warm days ever summer. How perfect is that? We get that here in some places (Canberra, alpine regions, Victoria)... but England's climate is just dull. It was the one thing I did not like about the country. There was simply no noticeable progression in seasons, which is something the US and parts of Australia (minus Western Australia and the dessert areas) do quite well.
Melbourne no more arty than Darwin? There goes your credibility.
Why? There is plenty going on in Darwin's arts scene. There isn't the money or the population that is available in Melbourne or other big cities but a lot of people up there get very involved in the arts. And because of the two factors mentioned, many are not professional artists so there is a lot of community involvement. The occasional professional touring performances always drew large audiences - including ballet and opera. When I lived up north I used to regularly go to plays, musicals and concerts. There were music festivals, art festivals, cultural festivals... In fact if anything, it was because of the small population and the sense of isolation that a greater proportion of the population got involved in the community, including the arts.
What would you say is the colder areas and their degrees in Australia?
Colder, you mean places that get cold during winter, Canberra, Tasmania and most places west of the Great Dividing Range. They tend to get winter frosts there. Winter minimums in the low single digits (Celsius) and the occasional freeze.
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