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Ironic, when WA already had a hard border closure with the eastern states anyway, when there were no cases.
I don't see the irony. WA had a policy of 28 days without community transmission before reopening borders and McGowan recommended other states implement a hard border with WA. We don't want to be importing cases from the rest of the country and vice versa, pretty simple.
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Originally Posted by Aussiehoff
For one case....The election can't come soon enough in WA. He will win of course but he will be able to stop this nonsense and manage such inevitable cases more sensibly.
I agree that it's a very cautious response, however when you consider 10 months without community transmission in WA, an election just around the corner, the fact it is a more contagious strain and the individual who was infected having been very active in the places he visited then it does make more sense.
I don't see the irony. WA had a policy of 28 days without community transmission before reopening borders and McGowan recommended other states implement a hard border with WA. We don't want to be importing cases from the rest of the country and vice versa, pretty simple.
Meanwhile the rest of us have to live with the reality of having hundreds of instances of infectiousness in the quarantine program because we do the heavy lifting on returning Australians so that McGowan can do victory laps and reopen nightclubs.
I don't see the irony. WA had a policy of 28 days without community transmission before reopening borders and McGowan recommended other states implement a hard border with WA. We don't want to be importing cases from the rest of the country and vice versa, pretty simple.
I agree that it's a very cautious response, however when you consider 10 months without community transmission in WA, an election just around the corner, the fact it is a more contagious strain and the individual who was infected having been very active in the places he visited then it does make more sense.
I think the election is the only one of those factors that came into consideration. The decision is further over reach. We know that McGowan acts outside of the health advice and I suspect it would be hard to find a medical or scientific authority anywhere in the world that would suggest this State shut down for a single case where there is reliable contact tracing. It is frankly absurd.
Meanwhile the rest of us have to live with the reality of having hundreds of instances of infectiousness in the quarantine program because we do the heavy lifting on returning Australians so that McGowan can do victory laps and reopen nightclubs.
What you're saying is false, a few weeks back Western Australia agreed to take 1000 out of 6000 international arrivals per week. So WA was taking 16% of arrivals while having 11% of the national population.
Instead of squabbling over which state is supposedly doing more or less than another, maybe we should ask the question why the Federal government isn't doing more to assist the states in offering quarantine facilities outside the populous capital cities - after all quarantine is explicitly set out as its responsibility under s.51(ix) of the Constitution.
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What you're saying is false, a few weeks back Western Australia agreed to take 1000 out of 6000 international arrivals per week. So WA was taking 16% of arrivals while having 11% of the national population.
And? Do you think the virus cares about per capita numbers? Each returning traveller is a potential outbreak. If you have 3,500 of them coming every week then logically you're at greater risk than somewhere with 1,000 per week. I appreciate that WA doesn't have the capacity to take the same numbers as NSW, but still...
Victory laps McGowan and the wombat from Qld understand that. That's why they both run their domestic border policy.
Instead of squabbling over which state is supposedly doing more or less than another, maybe we should ask the question why the Federal government isn't doing more to assist the states in offering quarantine facilities outside the populous capital cities - after all quarantine is explicitly set out as its responsibility under s.51(ix) of the Constitution.
No, the Constitution says the Commonwealth has the power to make laws wrt to quarantine. The states may also make laws, but the Constitution says that in that instance the Commonwealth's law would prevail if they differed.
If the federal government wants to delegate quarantine to the states then it can.
No, the Constitution says the Commonwealth has the power to make laws wrt to quarantine. The states may also make laws, but the Constitution says that in that instance the Commonwealth's law would prevail if they differed.
If the federal government wants to delegate quarantine to the states then it can.
That the laws of the Commonwealth can override any conflicting state law under section 51 implies that the Commonwealth should have primary responsibility in that area.
That the laws of the Commonwealth can override any conflicting state law under section 51 implies that the Commonwealth should have primary responsibility in that area.
Not sure about that. If that was the intention of s51 there would be no need for s109. Quarantine is a broad concept. The states are responsible for public health. This is a public health issue so I can understand why the states are doing the heavy lifting on the associated quarantine. That being said, the federal government could do more I think by using Christmas Island etc.
Remember when people said Victoria's predicament was just bad luck?
I feel so sad for Victorians. Especially the children with the start of school year disrupted. I really hope they get them back to school next week.
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