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Old 03-27-2024, 04:22 AM
 
Location: western NY
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I agree with Richard!
Its flat freaking stupid. Top 3 guys in points haven't won a race, while the guy that has won 2 races with no DNF's is in 6th place.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mot...add2421a&ei=44
I agree, too, for the most part....the part about tires. I do believe that in the past, teams could access all the tires they wanted, rather than a fixed number of sets.
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Old 03-27-2024, 09:14 AM
 
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I agree with Richard!
Its flat freaking stupid. Top 3 guys in points haven't won a race, while the guy that has won 2 races with no DNF's is in 6th place.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mot...add2421a&ei=44

Yeah, but the wins (basically) lock them into the playoffs.. Not the stage points.

I'm fine with stage points.. The part I don't like is throwing a caution at stage ends. Award the points, but keep it under green.

Remember a couple of years ago.. MTJ missed the playoffs and was.. What? 4th in points? It was VERY close to where Blaney, who was 2nd in points could have missed the playoffs.

Alternatively.. Just award 500 points for a race win. But.. I'm a traditionalist. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Kenseth in 2003.. Parsons back in '73.. They won a single race and won the championship. Because they were consistently good.
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Old 03-27-2024, 12:48 PM
 
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Yeah, but the wins (basically) lock them into the playoffs.. Not the stage points.

I'm fine with stage points.. The part I don't like is throwing a caution at stage ends. Award the points, but keep it under green.

Remember a couple of years ago.. MTJ missed the playoffs and was.. What? 4th in points? It was VERY close to where Blaney, who was 2nd in points could have missed the playoffs.

Alternatively.. Just award 500 points for a race win. But.. I'm a traditionalist. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Kenseth in 2003.. Parsons back in '73.. They won a single race and won the championship. Because they were consistently good.
Rewarding consistency and winning doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. Obviously, NASCAR can set up the points anyway they want. I just believing Winning should carry more weight than anything else. Now if a guy has 5 WINS and 5 DNF's should he be ahead of the guy that has 4 wins and 0 DNF's? Probably not, but they both should be ahead of everybody with 0 wins.
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Old 03-27-2024, 03:55 PM
 
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Rewarding consistency and winning doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. Obviously, NASCAR can set up the points anyway they want. I just believing Winning should carry more weight than anything else. Now if a guy has 5 WINS and 5 DNF's should he be ahead of the guy that has 4 wins and 0 DNF's? Probably not, but they both should be ahead of everybody with 0 wins.

Guy runs Talladega at the back. 40th position in stage 1.. 40th position in stage 2.. Wins the race


vs someone who wins stage 1, wins stage 2 and finishes second.. Who should get more points?



A million ways to look at everything. In the above situation.. I have no problems with the person finishing second getting more points than the race winner.
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Old 03-28-2024, 07:55 AM
 
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Guy runs Talladega at the back. 40th position in stage 1.. 40th position in stage 2.. Wins the race


vs someone who wins stage 1, wins stage 2 and finishes second.. Who should get more points?



A million ways to look at everything. In the above situation.. I have no problems with the person finishing second getting more points than the race winner.
The guy who crosses the finish line first under the checkered flag. That is what racing is supposed to be. Whats the old adage ... "he only led one lap, but it was the one that counted."

Look what Larson did in the x race at Cota. Started last but worked his way up till by the end of the race he was in position to capitalize on the 2 dominate cars the whole race to win.
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Old 03-31-2024, 10:21 AM
 
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Pretty cool to see Bubba score a 6th place finish his first time in an xfinity car...
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/20...ebut-richmond/
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Old 04-01-2024, 08:38 AM
 
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Richmond in a nutshell...yaaaaaawn.
If you haven't seen it yet just fast forward to the last 5 laps.
Wallace spins out Larson and man's up and owns it.
Truex will most surely be embarrassed today. The oldest driver acting the most immature.
Larson once again just taking it in stride with grace and class.
Josh Berry running good for SHR.
Top 10s for both RFK cars.
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Old 04-02-2024, 03:57 PM
 
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Richmond in a nutshell...yaaaaaawn.
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I can't recall ever seeing an exciting race at Richmond.
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Old 04-03-2024, 08:43 AM
 
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Rumor has it, SHR selling 1 possibly 2 charters. In which case which driver/ drivers get let go? I'm going to say Preece is the first to go. Briscoe probably safe.
Next question who's buying? Does JRM finally step up and get in? Maybe Jr buys the charter and takes Josh Berry with it, package deal.
Does SHR stay with Ford, hard to see how Returning to Chevy would be better, unless Chevy learned from losing Legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mot...eb192541&ei=17
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Old 04-03-2024, 10:04 AM
 
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I can't recall ever seeing an exciting race at Richmond.

You missed the 90's.. It was one of the best tracks on the schedule back in the day.

They used to seal the track which made it kinda unique.. Anytime you'd have someone spin, there'd be this yellow smoke coming from the tires due to the sealer.

I've been to Richmond.. Was there for the fall 2000 race, and it was quite good. That was the.. Titanium intake manifold race.. Gordon won over Earnhardt but was fined massively for the illegal intake. Back in the days where they kept the win no matter what.


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Rumor has it, SHR selling 1 possibly 2 charters. In which case which driver/ drivers get let go? I'm going to say Preece is the first to go. Briscoe probably safe.
Next question who's buying? Does JRM finally step up and get in? Maybe Jr buys the charter and takes Josh Berry with it, package deal.
Does SHR stay with Ford, hard to see how Returning to Chevy would be better, unless Chevy learned from losing Legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mot...eb192541&ei=17

If true.. And.. It certainly could be. We know there's problems there.

The 4 stays. No question. Josh Berry stays. No question. He, and that car, are the best that they have.

Now.. Of the remaining cars..

The 10 I don't believe is fully sponsored. The sponsors they do have.. At least Black Rifle Coffee is tied to Gragson.



The 14, has a multi-year deal with Mahindra and I believe if fully funded.

The 41.. That's Gene Haas' toy. Funded basically out of pocket by his companies. And.. From what has always been said.. he has final say on the driver of that car


I can see the 10 going away. I'd think they'd keep Gragson, tho.. Getting rid of either Preece or Briscoe.

TWO cars going away? Unless Gene Haas decides to stop funding the 41.. I can't see that going away.. And since the 14 is pretty fully funded for several more years.. I can't see that.


SHR has NOT done a good job of finding sponsors. Many of the sponsors they have had have come from drivers. Jimmy Johns, Hunt Brothers Pizza and Busch were all Harvick sponsors. Once he left, they left.

Smithfield was tied to Almirola.. Once he left.. They left.
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