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Old 10-01-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: 'Murica
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Any FWD cars? I don't like RWD cars in Utah winters.
I'm not one to advocate a FWD choice, but the GTI seems pretty nifty.

there's also the Altima and Accord, but if it were my money, I'd save myself some of it and just buy a sedan version instead.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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I'm not one to advocate a FWD choice, but the GTI seems pretty nifty.

there's also the Altima and Accord, but if it were my money, I'd save myself some of it and just buy a sedan version instead.
GTI is a fantastic choice. I own a 2008. Not considered a "coupe", but a great choice nevertheless.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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eggalegga

Your best bet for $25k is a brand new Subaru WRX. Only can get it in 4dr or 5dr hatchback, but still better than any FWD coupe you can buy.

Best AWD system available, turbo (great at high elevation), and 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Do it.

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Old 10-01-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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eggalegga

Your best bet for $25k is a brand new Subaru WRX. Only can get it in 4dr or 5dr hatchback, but still better than any FWD coupe you can buy.

Best AWD system available, turbo (great at high elevation), and 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Do it.
While I agree the WRX isn't a bad choice, lets not argue that it'll be "better" than "any" FWD coupe you can buy.

Best AWD available? Turbo that is "great" at high elevation? Please back up those statements.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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When you live at 8,500' elevation, like myself, you know that a NA engine loses horsepower as the air becomes less dense. A turbo can compenstate for this by spinning faster to compress the thinner air to achieve the original boost target. Engine power decreases 3% for every 1,000' increase in altitude. So if you are 5,000' (Denver, Salt Lake), your car will lose 15% of power. So a 305HP Mustang will run like it has 260HP.
At 8,500' feet, a NA (naturally aspired) engine loses 25% of power. A turbo will lose about 3-5%. That adds up quick.

Subaru has been doing AWD longer than most companies and it's quite known they have a great system, where even if one wheel has traction, the car will go. Most AWD cars have open diffs, thus allowing them not to be as effective.

Here are some fun videos


YouTube - Subaru AWD vs. competitors


YouTube - Hill Climb, 2010 Subaru Outback Launch. 07.23.09


YouTube - Subaru AWD vs. Everyone Else


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZwfR...eature=related

Audi's Quattro system is also very good, just as good or slightly better than Subaru's. But you an't gonna find a brand new AWD Audi for $25k that goes 0-60 in 4.7 seconds.

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Old 10-01-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Utah
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Thanks. I don't like four doors or hatchbacks....never have. My elevation is only 4,200 feet...higher than most, but still half of yours.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Subaru is supposedly going to come out with a 2 door RWD/AWD Impreza, which will be interesting.


Subaru WRX Coupé spied | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express





If money is no object, I would get an Audi S5.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
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There are many coupes out there for under $25,000.

I've read some good reviews of Toyota's Scion tC coupe.



Honda makes relatively large coupes.
2011 Honda Accord Coupe
http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2011/Honda/2011.honda.accord.20351734-E.jpg (broken link)

2011 Honda Civic SI Coupe
http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2010/Honda/2010.honda.civic.20308697-E.jpg (broken link)

The Dodge is a pretty large coupe.
2010 Dodge Challenger
http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2010/Dodge/2010.dodge.challenger.20307431-E.jpg (broken link)
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