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Todays V6's can provide a good compromise, look at the 2011 Mustang, 305 horses and 31mpg highway, 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Hell my '07 Charger V6 has 250 HP (a bit more with my predator tuner) and I get 23/29mpg, not sure what the 0-60 is on it with the tuner, stock is around 7.5 I think, but it weighs almost 2 tons.
That's my point. It's nice to know that a car gets good mileage, and at the same time is a little peppier than a 1980 Mercedes 240D. So it's ludicrous to suggest that one must either pick an econobox or a dedicated sports car.
^^ Oh and as for rarity... I think there were only about 4,000 made, mostly for the 1984 model year. A few hit the lots as 1983 models late in the model year cycle, then the rest came out as 1984s.
There were non SVO Mustang turbos from '79-84. I had an '80 Mustang Cobra turbo that I swapped a 460 cid big block into:
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that is not what I said... I said.. A faster a car is.. the more it costs. And that is 100% correct.
No, it's not. It's often correct, but not anywhere near 100%. Even if you limit the conversation to new cars.
Not true either, again, 2011 Mustang GT, faster than the Challenger, and cheaper.
that may be one example but if you want to keep going faster, its going to cost you more $$. The price of cars does NOT go down the faster they are.. Name me the 10 fastest cars you can buy... Then name the prices.. God.. why are some people so thick headed to the obvious??
that may be one example but if you want to keep going faster, its going to cost you more $$. The price of cars does NOT go down the faster they are.. Name me the 10 fastest cars you can buy... Then name the prices.. God.. why are some people so thick headed to the obvious??
It's the only example I need to provide to prove that your statement was pure BS.
take any car.. old or new.. Run it in the quarter mile... Then make it faster.. Then look at your wallet.. Why is this so hard to comprehend? speed cost $$.
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There were non SVO Mustang turbos from '79-84. I had an '80 Mustang Cobra turbo that I swapped a 460 cid big block into:
No, it's not. It's often correct, but not anywhere near 100%. Even if you limit the conversation to new cars.
take any car.. old or new.. Run it in the quarter mile... Then make it faster.. Then look at your wallet.. Why is this so hard to comprehend? speed cost $$.
The problem is in your wording "A faster a car is.. the more it costs" can be taken in relation to purchasing a car, which is not the case. If you had said the faster you want a given car to go the more it costs, there would have been much less confusion.
The problem is in your wording "A faster a car is.. the more it costs" can be taken in relation to purchasing a car, which is not the case. If you had said the faster you want a given car to go the more it costs, there would have been much less confusion.
that is kinda true to make a Fox body mustang or 3rd gen Iroc Camaro perform as well as a brand new stock 2011 5.0 mustng GT or Camaro SS will take alot of $$$ and it would almost be cheaper to buy the brand new car and the added factory warranty is a bounus.
take any car.. old or new.. Run it in the quarter mile... Then make it faster.. Then look at your wallet.. Why is this so hard to comprehend? speed cost $$.
Take any car, compare it to a faster car, Is it ALWAYS more expensive? No.
My V8 RX7 was faster than a new Hyundai exel. Was it more expensive than teh Hyndai? No. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Your statement was not "to make any car faster it will cost more." Your statement was "a faster car will cost more" and that's NOT true. I can have a lot of cars that are faster, but less expensive that a lot of cars that are slower but costlier.
And actually, there are also small things you can do to a lot of cars that wil make them faster without costing a single penny. So even then, your claim is not 100% true. Yes, it will cost more money to make any car significantly faster than it already is. But that's NOT what you said in your actual words posted. Until now.
The higher-horsepower GT Turbo wasn't available until 1983.
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